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Current collection- Seiko Marinemaster 300m SBDX001, Seiko Premier Automatic SPB001J1,
Seiko Premier Kinetic SNP004P1, Orient Mako XL CEM75002D
"In a forest of watchmakers there are only a few which have been genuine manufactories since day one, Seiko is one of them."
Originally Posted by JP(Canada)
Yes please > How big is your wrist? The marine master looks like a mid sized diver here or is there some phototrickery going on...
Sorry for some reason the the quote function is only showing the first photo not the "wrist shot" it might be a beautiful photo but it makes my question look odd. Further ramble > and now it looks like it's fixed making my edit pointless.
Last edited by flexible; July 16th, 2012 at 00:38. Reason: ramble about the quoting starting "sorry for some..."
LOL...not tricks, I assure you. I've said it before, the MM isn't that big a watch to begin with, and when you consider the small dial, it comes across quite wearable. My wrist is 7.75" most days, when it gets a bit hot, it grows a little above that.
The MM 300 is a modern day classic from a company with a near unparalleled heritage for dive watches. The AD might be a nice piece in its own right but they are trading off of a purchased heritage which it doesn't deserve. It might as well be the "Acme" BS 100, a thoroughly generic piece with a checkbooked pedigree.
I've owned multiples of all three (Seiko Marinemaster 300, Stowa Seatime and Prodiver, and Aquadive) watches. Never owned a Halios, and wouldn't even consider it with the others. Your best bet is to try all three out. The Seiko is a damn good watch that has world class casework, build quality, design, and construction. But I never could get past the fact that is was just a Rolex SUB wannabe IMHO, and it always left me cold. I never looked down at my wrist and got that warm fuzzy feeling. That is one of the most flipped dive watches out there, so that says a lot. The Stowa's were nice, but a bit unfinished and crude (compared to Seiko and Aquadive) if you know your watchmaking. They are made by Fricker, but Fricker has German and Asian factories, and the Stowa felt Chinese in construction to me. Again, it left me cold. And the casework, build quality, and construction were nowhere near the league of Seiko and Aquadive. The Stowa is also one of the most flipped watches, and has bad resale to boot. Somebody here has pics of the Aquadive 100 and Seiko Marinemaster together, so he'd be another good guy (meaning he actually owned the watches in question, that makes a huge difference when asking for comparisons) to ask for an informed opinion. The Aquadive, do your research on their website and official forum here, and you'll get some great info and learn a lot. The Aquadive is on par with the Seiko in regards to the casework, build quality, design, and construction. These are my honest subjective opinions as an owner of the three watches in question, YMMV.
For members who understand, no explanation is needed. For thread crappers who do not understand, no explanation is possible. Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.
Huh? You left out the Stowa and Halios (OP asked about all four) in your failed attempt at a slam. Please go research all the Swiss brands, and see how many of them are still under their original founding ownership. Guess what, Patek is the only one. All others either went bankrupt, and/or were bought out or revived by huge conglomerates at some point in their history, especially since the late 1970's and early 1980's. So all other Swiss brands are also living off their checkbooked pedigree and heritage as you so eloquently put it. The Seiko is generic, but in an understated classy way. Nothing wrong at all with generic, but the Aquadive is far from generic. And many of the Asian micro brands out there are merely living off borrowed Swiss history and pedigrees.
For members who understand, no explanation is needed. For thread crappers who do not understand, no explanation is possible. Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.
I'd put Seiko and Rolex as the two preeminent manufacturers of dive watches so calling the MM generic completely discounts the history of iconic Seiko divers. Part of the justification of the exorbitant price of the AD is its "heritage", which was basically picked up in the defunct trademark office. And if you're going to bring Aquadive back, bring it back with the depth gauge which was 'the Aquadive" innovation. Its like bringing back Delorean as a four cylinder hatchback.
My opinion of the Marinemaster as being generic doesn't discount Seiko's history in any way. I've owned all of their great vintage and modern dive watches, and many of them are much more unique, innovative, iconic, and better looking than the Marinemaster. Research your Seiko dive watch history, and you'll find this to be the case. With depth gauge watches, again, do your research, and you'll find the reasons why so few watch companies (Blancpain, JLC, Panerai, IWC) in the world even make mechanical depth gauge watches.
For members who understand, no explanation is needed. For thread crappers who do not understand, no explanation is possible. Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.
The use of the word Generic in a catalog case dive watch world. Ironic.
Oh...and nothing generic about Aquadive's case. Perhaps, read a bit.
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the do your research thing doesn't really mean that much, I know Seiko dive watch history as well as most. Aquadive was known for one and one thing only and that was the depth gauge. Slapping the name on a diver and saying the legend returns is idiotic. What else to expect when its the masterminds behind Doxa and its patented contempt of its consumers (stealth lume, shoddy spelling).
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