Helson Quality? What do you think.

[Jordiher]

I'm sorry; the quality are good, but the Swiss Made quality is the best. I think.

[Zarith]

Movements aside, I'm 100% positive that a mid range Seiko is more expensive to build than the Helson Sharkdiver.

• A typical Seiko case requires a higher precision design, engineering and manufacturing process than this rough generic Helson case. In general the smaller the details, the more expensive it is to build.
• Most Seiko dials are multi layered, have applied indices and labels, date window bevels, side markers, etc... The Helson, on the other hand, has just a basic printed dial. It's the cheapest one can order. The date window is cut out, without any bevel or outline.
• The Seiko bezels are always very complex with multi sized grip, waffle patterns, etc... Again, the Helson uses a very simple design, cheaper to get done.
• Finally a Seiko will often have multiple finish: polished, brushed, sand blasted. A uniform finish like the Helson requires less production steps.

The only really expensive part of the Helson is its movement. An ETA mechanical is always more expensive than an entry level Seiko mechanical.

But of course this doesn't mean the Helson is of a lower quality than a Seiko. It is just made differently, using a less precise manufacturing process. The end result is still very good

[lexvil]

Not a fan of the Sharkdiver because it is to thick and heavy but it is a very good watch, overall and in my opinion the quality is as good as anything out there from anywhere! They are built to a purpose, like Omega used to be and If they paid someone to buff a bunch of "pretty" into it like the Swiss tend to do you wouldn't know it wasn't from one of the "prestigious" houses, if you want a real nice watch to wear for your own satisfaction or ,gasp, DIVE with the Helson will do the job as well as anything available from anyplace. On the other hand if you want a watch to impress the average moron at work it won't do, stick to Rolex or Omega.

[arutlosjr11]

Peter's offerings are EXCELLENT. I have owned about 4-5 shark divers from Peter and had 0 issues with them all.

What others have said about his CS is also true. One of the best in the Biz.

Good Luck!

PS: I do like looking at Rolex and Omegas to tho...

[fastward]

Helson's quality is between Seiko's entry level divers and Prospex divers. If Lex would be kind enough to buff them pretty, I think the gap would be smaller.

Peter is top notch to work with.

[lexvil]

I'm more the guy you call if you want them beat silly rather than buffed pretty.

Helson's quality is between Seiko's entry level divers and Prospex divers. If Lex would be kind enough to buff them pretty, I think the gap would be smaller.

Peter is top notch to work with.

[nozh2002]

Movements aside, I'm 100% positive that a mid range Seiko is more expensive to build than the Helson Sharkdiver.

• A typical Seiko case requires a higher precision design, engineering and manufacturing process than this rough generic Helson case. In general the smaller the details, the more expensive it is to build.
• Most Seiko dials are multi layered, have applied indices and labels, date window bevels, side markers, etc... The Helson, on the other hand, has just a basic printed dial. It's the cheapest one can order. The date window is cut out, without any bevel or outline.
• The Seiko bezels are always very complex with multi sized grip, waffle patterns, etc... Again, the Helson uses a very simple design, cheaper to get done.
• Finally a Seiko will often have multiple finish: polished, brushed, sand blasted. A uniform finish like the Helson requires less production steps.

The only really expensive part of the Helson is its movement. An ETA mechanical is always more expensive than an entry level Seiko mechanical.

But of course this doesn't mean the Helson is of a lower quality than a Seiko. It is just made differently, using a less precise manufacturing process. The end result is still very good

Of course seiko can afford production line and polish even on cheap Seiko will be better then polish on Helson, but it cost more in Helson case, because we
are talking about hundreds of thousands in Seiko case and few thousands max for Helson.

In deed same Sumo has more sophisticated construction and complexity which has nothing to do with at least my needs, I can appreciate good engineering,
but this is not quite important for me. Now none of Seko cases are even close to depth Helson is rated for - it may be overkill, but I like o have some reserve
in strength, just in case.

Case polish is matter of style, and Helson style is rough tool, there is no practical use for high polish. Waffle
grip or not - but Helson bezel has excellent design in terms of easy and smooth bezel turns and reliable grips -
much better then I have on Sumo.

And most important - movement accuracy. I have ETA-2824 and it way ahead of Seiko Sumo. I am not
sure about super expensive one like "The Seiko", but comparing side to side Helson and Sumo - Helson
wins without any doubts.

And my conclusion - I like my Sumo and I like Helson Shirkdiver. I have one Sumo and not going to buy another
Seiko. I have two Sharkdives and keep checking Helson website on regular basis...

Also I should add as a pro point - if I have any questions - Peter answer me himself right away and always helpful.

[vidi]

Not a FANBOY of any brand here!
China, Swiss, German simply i don't care where the watch is made, all i do care is the final quality and based on my personal experience Helson's rocks and Peter's CS is second to none!

Ive got 2 helson watches and can only say 'I agree'. Waiting for the 3rd (42mm bronze sd being made atm)

[nozh2002]

Helson's quality is between Seiko's entry level divers and Prospex divers. If Lex would be kind enough to buff them pretty, I think the gap would be smaller.

Peter is top notch to work with.

I have Seiko Prospex and Helson. I chose Helson without any doubt on a heart beat.
I do not care how high polished it is. My Helson is more accurate. As well I forgot to
mention - sapphire is rare on Seiko, my Helson has it. Bezel is heavily lumed as well,
not for Seiko.

This is just hard to compare - Helson is almose custom - small personal business as I
understand, Seiko is mass production International mega corporation. Heslon is more
dynamic and closer to his customer. Seiko is about volumes, logistic, market share ...
all this corporate things.

I prefer Helson.

[koiom]

I've got a Sharkmaster 1000, it's beautifully crafted and keeps great time.
The only gripe I've got is the links at the lug end of each section of the mesh bracelet are a bit sub par.
They're not entirely closed so they actually rub against the case.
The Watchadoo mesh I've got is of a higher quality.