Introducing Olivier Watches & the Olivier Bronze Diver!

[thecustomer]

Roland, I am sure you must have heard of the Bronze alloy debacle with Benarus and Helson Bronze watches where the expected Bronze turned out be Brass and they had to issue a recall. Similar issue is simmering at Magrette with their Bronze Regattare. It appears that the issue is with the supplier of the Bronze and not the watch makers who are all trying to do the right thing for their customers and their brand.

Not trying to insinute anything here, but wanted to know if you were aware of this and under the circumstances, have you done any kind of independent test to confirm the authenticity of the Bronze alloy for your watches?

[snpr9696]

The day I ordered a brown face Olivier and before Roland had the other strap offerings I set a strap maker to work making what I feel will be the ultimate strap for this bronze diver. I got the finished pictures yesterday from Joe @ SNPR straps and I'm estatic with the results. I'm even more anxious now for everything to show up and get planted on my wrist. Joe was great to work with and went out of his way to find my desired thread color to go with the bronze finish of the watch.

Here is the finished product.

Wow...I thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you pleased.
Joe D

[BENARUS]

Roland, I am sure you must have heard of the Bronze alloy debacle with Benarus and Helson Bronze watches where the expected Bronze turned out be Brass and they had to issue a recall. Similar issue is simmering at Magrette with their Bronze Regattare. It appears that the issue is with the supplier of the Bronze and not the watch makers who are all trying to do the right thing for their customers and their brand.

Not trying to insinute anything here, but wanted to know if you were aware of this and under the circumstances, have you done any kind of independent test to confirm the authenticity of the Bronze alloy for your watches?

I just posted this on our Helson / Benarus thread but I want to be very clear here. Helson and Benarus got our metal from the same supplier. The other companies have their own supply chains and factories. We are not all using the same sources.

[i1800collect]

Roland, I am sure you must have heard of the Bronze alloy debacle with Benarus and Helson Bronze watches where the expected Bronze turned out be Brass and they had to issue a recall. Similar issue is simmering at Magrette with their Bronze Regattare. It appears that the issue is with the supplier of the Bronze and not the watch makers who are all trying to do the right thing for their customers and their brand.

Not trying to insinute anything here, but wanted to know if you were aware of this and under the circumstances, have you done any kind of independent test to confirm the authenticity of the Bronze alloy for your watches?

Read post #339.

Link to said post: Introducing Olivier Watches & the Olivier Bronze Diver!

[thsiao]

Its killing me... ETA or Miyota???

[poison]

Its killing me... ETA or Miyota???

I say Miyota, but that's just me.

[Sean779]

Its killing me... ETA or Miyota???

last chance to get a new ETA!

[i1800collect]

Its killing me... ETA or Miyota???

Both the Miyota 8215 and ETA 2824-2 are fine, proven movements. The one 'downside' to the Miyota IMO is its indirect second hand drive which causes the second hand to pause momentarily at certain angles/positions. For me personally, I can not stand second hand 'jitter' so I decided to go with the ETA 2824-2.

IIRC, didn't you once own the Magrette Moana Pacific (the version with the second hand)? Did the second hand jitter bother you at all? If not, I would say save the $200 and go with the Miyota version.

[ttimbo]

Both the Miyota 8215 and ETA 2824-2 are fine, proven movements. The one 'downside' to the Miyota IMO is its indirect second hand drive which causes the second hand to pause momentarily at certain angles/positions. For me personally, I can not stand second hand 'jitter' so I decided to go with the ETA 2824-2.

IIRC, didn't you once own the Magrette Moana Pacific (the version with the second hand)? Did the second hand jitter bother you at all? If not, I would say save the $200 and go with the Miyota version.

Andrew, I've now had 4 watches with the Myota 8215 movement, and never experienced the second hand jitter than some owners post about. Maybe I don't study my watches closely enough, but I'm fairly fussy. Maybe I'm lucky I do, however, hear the noise associated with the rotor moving....but that doesn't worry me, either.

So, of course, I have pumped for a Miyota. In my experience, there's nothing between them in accuracy; the only downside is the 8215 doesn't hack.

[i1800collect]

Andrew, I've now had 4 watches with the Myota 8215 movement, and never experienced the second hand jitter than some owners post about. Maybe I don't study my watches closely enough, but I'm fairly fussy. Maybe I'm lucky I do, however, hear the noise associated with the rotor moving....but that doesn't worry me, either.

So, of course, I have pumped for a Miyota. In my experience, there's nothing between them in accuracy; the only downside is the 8215 doesn't hack.

I guess I might be more fussy!

I've only owned two watches powered by the Miyota 8215, one was the Magrette with the second hand which was immediately flipped once Dion announced the Moana Pacific PVD (with the same Miyota 8215, but no second hand). I've since flipped my Moana Pacific PVD as well, but only because it wasn't getting enough wrist time. I did notice a jitter at times; it definitely wasn't very frequent, but it was enough to annoy me.

The rotor noise of the Miyotas (old and new) I can also hear, but that doesn't really bother me either. At times I can even hear my ETA 2824-2's rotor rotating or the 'ticking' of the escapement in my ETA 6498-1 when I'm working in a quiet lab or office.