Please, educate me about SQUALE

[Kojikabuto]

any informations on the Squale Spirotechnique collaboration?
(I do have the Squale 1000m Spiro and the 500m PVD Spiro)

Thanks!

Congratulations..you are late already posting photos of those beauties

yes of course but you have to wait a bit so i got time to write those
posts in my forum.

[pk_diver]

Hello, i been collecting and selling those for years
and i think i can answer your questions
[...]

Thanks Kojikabuto! Looking forward to seeing your reviews.

We in a well known italian forum have been in contact with Squale in Milan for some time now, and many of us visited their laboratory. We also bought a bunch of Squales... I received their catalogue in the middle of 2009. And yes, there we knew from long ago this was going to happen...

Just a few points:

Squale is not an italian name, shark in italian is "Squalo" and not "Squale", but it may be easily a fantasy name based on italian "Squalo".

According to Squale themselves, the Squales sold in 2009/beginning 2010, were made using NOS cases, NOS tritium dial and hands, while only the eta movement and bezel insert are brand new. I bet also those sold now in their new website are just the same. I don't think they are still producing cases for the 50atmos, or the 101 or the Tiger: the stock for the 101atmos was over in 2009 and they say it won't be replaced as they don't have the moulds anymore (and infact, the 101 is not sold in their website now).

And yes, rumors say a brand new Squale is coming out middle 2010:do you refer to this when you mention their "new venture in Grentchen, Switzerland"?

They claim a military heritage, but no italian army / police is know for having Squale as issued watches. Nevertheless some Squales with military emblems pop up rarely, but i think they were just ordered "privately" by some corp, but not from the Ministry of Defence. I'd say that the real military heritage for Squale may be represented better by their cases used by Auricoste for French Marine Nationale and the German Blancpain Bund.

greeting!

[subkrawler]

I have been in contact with Squale about purchasing a watch, I just asked them about a group purchase, waiting for a reply.

Cheers,
Andy

Awesome Andy....keep us posted and I might be in for two.

[Kojikabuto]

Thanks Kojikabuto! Looking forward to seeing your reviews.

We in a well known italian forum have been in contact with Squale in Milan for some time now, and many of us visited their laboratory. We also bought a bunch of Squales... I received their catalogue in the middle of 2009. And yes, there we knew from long ago this was going to happen...

Just a few points:

Squale is not an italian name, shark in italian is "Squalo" and not "Squale", but it may be easily a fantasy name based on italian "Squalo".

According to Squale themselves, the Squales sold in 2009/beginning 2010, were made using NOS cases, NOS tritium dial and hands, while only the eta movement and bezel insert are brand new. I bet also those sold now in their new website are just the same. I don't think they are still producing cases for the 50atmos, or the 101 or the Tiger: the stock for the 101atmos was over in 2009 and they say it won't be replaced as they don't have the moulds anymore (and infact, the 101 is not sold in their website now).

And yes, rumors say a brand new Squale is coming out middle 2010:do you refer to this when you mention their "new venture in Grentchen, Switzerland"?

They claim a military heritage, but no italian army / police is know for having Squale as issued watches. Nevertheless some Squales with military emblems pop up rarely, but i think they were just ordered "privately" by some corp, but not from the Ministry of Defence. I'd say that the real military heritage for Squale may be represented better by their cases used by Auricoste for French Marine Nationale and the German Blancpain Bund.

greeting!

nice to meet you Pk-diver, yes i know you,i got some of your
photograps in my database

as you say shark its in italian Squali/Squalo Latin has plenty of variations
in spanish its escualo.

as a squale collector for years, i been having lots of fun
while most people remained lost about the brand..even the proper italians Most of the time,
didnt realize about its own jewell until some months ago

i remained silent waiting for the new squales to be released
and now seems a good moment to discuss the brand
like with other vintage watches i build a long database
i will share now with my fellow forumers in my country

Meanwhile i was able to build up my collection thanks to friends in italy
searching old shops for remaining stock

as you well know and pointed out, when mounted units where sold out
in via santamaria del valle, late 2009, they started to mount remaining cases
with old stock parts sometimes erroneously..

But we can say anyway that all watches sold up till now are real new
old stock

From now on watch out, with prices for the vintage ones higher than the new
built, its time to take care so newly made will mix with the old in the market
so time for everybody to learn a bit about the brand

appart from supporting the events i mentioned in the previous
post you will discover that squale offered to personalize their models
as the client wished in the past and thats why there are squales branded
with military logos & public forces symbols but not as "official supplier"
as you correctly said

just an example

will you fancy a 50atmos with your name?...cool



Also as you say any lucky owner of a squale 101 should take care for it
reedited versions of the professional line with new etas (2824-2 instread of old 2472/2824) 50atmos and 2829 tigers are available at a fair launch price
but not the 2873/2824) 101s anymore, so does the rambo line.

traditionally reissues-raise the value of originals
and i think this wont be different

as far as i know i purchased the very lasts numbered versions
and i also seen the render of the new one
and has nothing to do with old line
cristals and bezels match in a different way so it will be a new concept
and not an exact reedition like with the professional line

in any case its a beauty and will be a best seller
a collectable of the future for sure.

about actual 2010 cases beign Nos or rebuilt, we are having the same discussion,they might have some left yet but im pretty sure they should have started new production, of course for us are more collectables if they are Nos, but some have storage marks, so i think that would be difficult to explain to someone that expects a new watch.

in any case, if you find out its just remaining stock and not reedited please let me know

the quartz line is in production as well (in fact they never stooped building this ones) and the Medium & corallo lines as well

the rest are the usual leisure and women line that have not much interest for us

praying for a revision of the SAPHIR SUPER & MASTER LINE
but unsure yet.

[civas04]

Hi guys I wan to introduce you all the 101atm, unfortunately they don't produce it anymore...Let me have your opinion

[enmed]

Question 3: Is it correct that the modern Squale watches are NOS cases with new movements?

To my knowledge you are correct with one exception:
the Tiger was born in the eighties with the ETA2892,
and it's currently sold with the same calibre.
So in this particular case the watch can be considered fully NOS.

Here's mine in some pictures of last november:




A couple of pictures showing the thinness of this watch (only 11mm!).
It is extremely portable despite the diameter of 44mm.

[enmed]

...and a more recent picture with an isofrane-style strap:

[aikiman44]

That 101 Atm is fantastico!
And the Tiger is pretty cool, too.
I'm wondering if the case can be brushed?

[olalj]

Wow, thanks for all the replies. I´m learning more and more. Keep on going...

Ola

[sfglenrock]

I have been in contact with Squale about purchasing a watch, I just asked them about a group purchase, waiting for a reply.

Cheers,
Andy

You can put me down for one as well, Andy. Thanks.