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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

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    The date is placed at 4:30 precisely so as not to detract from the details of dial/upset its symmetry (so that aesthetically it's not there - "becomes lost").
    Agreed, given the presence of the date window on the MPP that is the only available location. And because it's not only white on black but also due to the STP1-11's date typeface being a bit smaller and thinner than the 9015's it really does drop out of the way. It's there until you need it. In my case the watch that does this disappearing act the best is the Oris Aquis Date with black dial. That said the quarter-dial location is inherently asymmetrical. Some more than others where there is an odd placement that doesn't have any apparent design or mechanical purpose otherwise.

    Here is one recent offender that I just can't wrap my head around, the Alpina Seastrong Diver Vintage...

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    There aren't many watches where a date aperture becomes a deal-breaker for me but this is one. Not only is it askew in quarter-dial slot but also between the 3 and 4 o'clock markers. I appreciate the intent here...it is placed to align with the 3:18 crown that is either for winding/setting or the internal bezel. But why put the crown there in the first place? Perhaps it's a function of the dial size compared to the date wheel, they couldn't get around the obstruction of the smaller 4:00 marker. So the aperture is stuffed to the side and, even more oddball, the marker is shortened (unlike any other on the dial.) Mechanically I don't get understand the crown location, and from a design perspective given any physical limitations why force the issue with the date wheel? Just leave it off and the dial would be immeasurably better. This isn't for the sake of historical accuracy as I have seen photos of the original reference and the date is more logically placed at 3.

    For sake of comparison here it is with no date...

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    At a higher level is the otherwise spectacular Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Bathyscape, an incredible timepiece that - for me - is let down by the offset date aperture...

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    This is one of the most beautiful watches I have every seen. And while the aperture is perfectly executed in its 4:30 position I can't help but wonder why it wasn't located at 6. There really isn't anything in the way, the marker is nice and compact and there is ample room above with the fine "Bathyscape" type. Because the dial is otherwise so perfectly clean and balanced there is no place for anything extraneous to hide. No date or symmetrical 6 o'clock, you decide...

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    Then there is a perfect example of where balance is achieved with the date window. The absolutely pristine Tudor Pelagos...

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    I chose the original version rather than the more current manufacture because I think the date/3 o'clock position is better executed. Actually, on this generation with a slight tweak of the text position the window could have sat at 6 o'clock. Dead center, very balanced. But it wouldn't have worked as well as it introduces a new dial element. At 3 o'clock it visually merges with the "stub" to complete the marker, which in turn balances with the full marker at 9. This is also why the black-on-white wheel works so well; the kneejerk is to color match the wheel to the dial but here it's serving a specific purpose. It is for this reason that I really scratch my head at Tudor's choice to remove the stub in the current, manufacture, generation...

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    Not only does it feel less balanced to my eyes (it's now smaller than it's mirror at 9 o'clock) but in the dark you now have a black, lumeless patch on the dial. I know the extra three lines of text is usually the center of controversy on this update but I think that change makes a bigger impact. Regardless, in my opinion this is still one of the finest dive watches you can buy.

    Huge digression here but the overarching point is regardless of what designers choose for a date (which location, what color, or whether it's used at all) it will never satisfy everybody. But it sure can make a difference on how a dial appears.
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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    Quote Originally Posted by mitchjrj View Post

    I have recently become infatuated with Panatime’s line of RIOS1931 Vintage leather straps and have accumulated several.

    These are absolutely fantastic, perfectly suited to this watch style… and they’re very affordable given the quality. These are no-miss propositions…


    Two RIOS straps arrived from Panatime.


    Great straps, as good as promised!




    I'm all set...



    once I get the watch.

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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    Quote Originally Posted by mattcantwin View Post
    Two RIOS straps arrived from Panatime.


    Great straps, as good as promised!




    I'm all set...



    once I get the watch.
    Which did you order?


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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    Quote Originally Posted by mitchjrj View Post
    Which did you order?
    Actually ordered three:

    Classic Desert Dweller

    Suede Brown Vintage

    Burnt Chestnut


    However, I am going to exchange the Suede Brown for a Black Vintage Leather.

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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    Nice. The chestnut vies for my favorite with the burnt maroon. Very, very rich looking leather.


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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    The strap is going back Monday and I just checked out the burnt maroon; beautiful.



    Might be changing my mind on the replacement strap.

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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    Quote Originally Posted by mattcantwin View Post
    The strap is going back Monday and I just checked out the burnt maroon; beautiful.

    Might be changing my mind on the replacement strap.
    Do you own a Vantage, or otherwise bronze watch? Those warm tones pair incredibly well together...

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    Incidentally so does the Burnt Chestnut.
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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    Quote Originally Posted by mitchjrj View Post
    Do you own a Vantage, or otherwise bronze watch? Those warm tones pair incredibly well together...

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    Incidentally so does the Burnt Chestnut.

    No, but the strap looks great on the bronze Magrette.

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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    Olive Panerai strap from Bandrbands work? Sure!


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    Re: Review: Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Black & Steel

    After looking at this amazing review and all the pictures, I think I am changing from from black to SS.

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