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    The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    The OP asked"?
    "I can't seem to even figure out what model this is"

    I responded that this (OP6812) is a PAM 360 using a UNITAS 6497 movement - that I believe correct!

    I never passed any opinion on its authenticity, nor do I now. I was just giving the OP the PAM number so he could research it, as I believed he wanted to do.
    I am so lost, we prob leave on different planets as you logic is just plain weird. Someone asks for a model number of what is clearly a cheap replica, which does not even exist in Panerai catalog. What has it got to do with ETA 6497 exactly? Have you seen the photo of its dial? Did you notice it says "8 days"? Do you know if any 6497 with an 8 day power reserve? Wow. Moving on... you saw the (overpolished) SS case on that fake, right? You do know that PAM360 is DLC-covered and BLACK, right? Again, what these two watches have in common exactly? Caseback? OK, that's the only thing that (kind of - if you ignore incorrect fonts, profile etc.) is common between this fake and genuine 360, but if EVERYTHING is wrong on the fake, why would you want to even mention the 360, ETA and all that, exactly? Just say "no such thing exists" and leave it be, instead of confusing people further with "additional research". Anyways, hope the OP finds you advise useful, over and out.
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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by korneevy View Post
    I am so lost, we prob leave on different planets as you logic is just plain weird. Someone asks for a model number of what is clearly a cheap replica, which does not even exist in Panerai catalog. What has it got to do with ETA 6497 exactly? Have you seen the photo of its dial? Did you notice it says "8 days"? Do you know if any 6497 with an 8 day power reserve? Wow. Moving on... you saw the (overpolished) SS case on that fake, right? You do know that PAM360 is DLC-covered and BLACK, right? Again, what these two watches have in common exactly? Caseback? OK, that's the only thing that (kind of - if you ignore incorrect fonts, profile etc.) is common between this fake and genuine 360, but if EVERYTHING is wrong on the fake, why would you want to even mention the 360, ETA and all that, exactly? Just say "no such thing exists" and leave it be, instead of confusing people further with "additional research". Anyways, hope the OP finds you advise useful, over and out.
    Ah- OK
    I understand your point now.
    To be honest, I never studied the watch at all, hence NO comment on its authenticity or not.
    I just converted the Op number on case back to a PAM number.

    The rest as you say is correct.
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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Hi guys, does the swan neck mount look right on tho 111 movement?


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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausman600 View Post
    Hi guys, does the swan neck mount look right on tho 111 movement?


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    Nope!
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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Hi!
    First post, and first Panerai for me. I'm looking to buy a PAM176/OP6725. The seller has no box or papers, but are willing to let it go for 2900 USD. Any thoughts on authenticity or price? Thank you immensly in advance for your guidance.

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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mnemonic View Post
    Hi!
    First post, and first Panerai for me. I'm looking to buy a PAM176/OP6725. The seller has no box or papers, but are willing to let it go for 2900 USD. Any thoughts on authenticity or price? Thank you immensly in advance for your guidance.

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    Dial side looks OK
    Movement side needs clearer photos of balance wheel area and Swan Neck, but from what I can see looks genuine
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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Hi guys,

    Planning to deal with a seller flying in from overseas for a PAM 368 full set. Can I get a second opinion? He's sent me some pictures - the movement looks like everything's correct, just that the only thing I'm worried about is that the screw hole between the 'TWENTY' and 'THREE' on the movement plate looks like it's empty compared to other pictures of 368s I've seen online.

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    It could just be that the lighting is bad, though. Am I being overcautious? Seems like this wouldn't be a popular PAM to fake anyway given that it has the display back and seconds-reset mechanism, though...
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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Its genuine
    I think the hole is to allow access to a screw below.
    All looks good to me.
    Its "impossible" to fake to that quality of a propriety movement, and yours has ALL the correct points
    Here is a genuine
    http://www.wristwatchphoto.com/2010/...nerai-346.html
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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    evening guys hope you can help ...

    looking for guidance on this before I take the jump ..

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    pam359 2016

    watch is been sold with box/papers but no receipt

    thanks in advance !

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    Re: The "Is this Panerai real?" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NortheastJasper View Post
    evening guys hope you can help ...

    looking for guidance on this before I take the jump ..

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    pam359 2016

    watch is been sold with box/papers but no receipt

    thanks in advance !
    Can not 100% confirm from that photo.
    Need to see the complete balance wheel AND Escape wheel. But from what I can see looks WRONG!

    I would not "jump" yet
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