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    may I join the club?

    This might fit better in the Watchmaking Zone, but I have a feeling that that forum is idling and I need feedback.

    Since I discovered this forum or maybe just two days after I wanted to make one myself.
    I have found here so many enthusiasts and so much knowledge that I'm pretty sure that there is no way to fail. Just a matter of putting in practice + a small contribution from myself (I really mean it)
    The greatest problem is watch related too ...time...
    The guiding lines for my design (already working on it) are as follows:
    (A) CASE
    1. Big
    2. Big
    3. Big
    4. 100 bar +
    5. 316L, CNC
    6. DLC, or laser carbide coating*, or Kolsterising process**.
    7. Screwdown crown ***
    8. Soft iron cage
    9. Secured bezel (unidirectional is ok still not perfect)
    10. Seals - viton (Dupont) or something else if I'll find a better helium barrier
    11. HRV (in relation to (10); working on my own design, based on seals used in heavy hydraulics, let's see if it works)
    *,** both are available 250 km from my hometown
    *** there MUST be a more practical alternative but "When in Rome..."
    (B) MOVEMENT
    1. 2834-2 or..
    2. SW200 or..
    3. Hattori 5M62/3 or..
    4 automatic anyway (sine qua non condition; ok with a "combo" but NO batteries)
    5. no chronograph
    6. this position is reserved for your suggestions
    (C) CRYSTAL
    1. Sapphire or..
    2. Sapphire + plastic "sandwich" *
    * seems that sapphire is the most popular by now, but I would rather use a combination - scratch resistant as sapphire and impact resistant as some plastics;
    even if the sapphire layer cracks the need is for another crystal and not for another watch.

    (D) DIAL
    1. another "sandwich" here, soft iron + brass*; simple and easy to read; not decided about the color yet.
    2. Superluminova or strontium aluminate + clear epoxy/acryl (have to do some tests first)
    3. I'm not very happy with the date window, but I don't think that I want to modify the movement.
    * top layer, more "machining friendly", no other reason for using brass.
    (E) Mechanical complications
    1. Mechanical pressure gauge (it increases case height by at least 2 mm, this is much for an already "(A)1,2,3" watch)
    2. No more ideas yet and I think that even (1) is useless but I really want it, just for fun.
    My concerns are related to:
    (A) 1,2,3 - you know what I mean, maybe 1,2 is enough
    (A) 4 - why do I need a 100 bar + water resistant desk diver ?
    (B) - Most people prefer swiss, there must be a serious reason.
    (C) - thermal expansion coefficient is a problem if very different, deformation under pressure is another one; some FEA will tell.
    (E) 1 - do I need to complicate my life with that ?
    Decisions, decisions... you already understood that your opinion is welcome and considered as a great help.
    I would be very happy to answer to questions (if any), or to detail anything above.
    Appologies for the telegraphic presentation, I'm an engineer and I can't write beautiful stories, besides that my first language is (obviously) not english.
    Thank you all for what I have learned here in the last few months and for your time spent reading this.
    P.S. Don't tell me I'm crazy, I already know that and my wife would (happily) agree.
    Renee Descartes walks into a bar, the bartender says 'sir can I get you a Martini ?', Descartes says 'I don't think...' and he disappears

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    Re: May I join the club ?

    Now that sounds like a helluva watch, I got tired just reading it, one of the denser material posts we've seen recently!

    Sound like you are well on your way to designing a piece that could easily be sent to Mars (with or without humans) to conquer it for mankind!
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    Re: May I join the club ?

    Quote Originally Posted by cflye View Post
    Now that sounds like a helluva watch, I got tired just reading it, one of the denser material posts we've seen recently!

    Sound like you are well on your way to designing a piece that could easily be sent to Mars (with or without humans) to conquer it for mankind!
    Don't remember to be mentioned anything about a "rocket movement". This must be for the point (B)6
    And I'm afraid that in the Earth's not immediate vicinity (Mars) there is no (liquid) water nor pressure.
    But thanks for your encouregement.
    Last edited by workaholic_ro; March 10th, 2008 at 16:28.
    Renee Descartes walks into a bar, the bartender says 'sir can I get you a Martini ?', Descartes says 'I don't think...' and he disappears

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    Re: may I join the club?

    I'm afraid you are not taking me seriously:oops:; if I remove (E)1 can I expect for some feedback ? :thanks:thanks
    Renee Descartes walks into a bar, the bartender says 'sir can I get you a Martini ?', Descartes says 'I don't think...' and he disappears

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    Re: may I join the club?

    How are things going in with your watch design? Hope that you did not get discouraged just because someone did not take you seriously. I, myself, is contemplating on making my on watch and your information was most valuable.

    Thanks so much my friend.
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    Re: may I join the club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliper1681 View Post
    How are things going in with your watch design? Hope that you did not get discouraged just because someone did not take you seriously. I, myself, is contemplating on making my on watch and your information was most valuable.

    Thanks so much my friend.
    Very much appreciation for your encouragement. :thanks No, I don't give up so easy , but I've been in vacation almost two months and I had to put all my projects on standby. Started the work again a few days ago but unfortunately I can't spend all the time on it, I have another (small) business to run.
    A few changes occurred from my first post, no HRV, no laser carbide coating (I've consulted the specialists and they can't do it as smooth as I need) and definitelly no DLC, I'm afraid I don't like it anymore.
    Very dissapointed about the movements, I've contacted the "good guys" and their stuff will be not avilable in the next future. Don't know yet were else to search but still desperately digging. Actualy I wouldnt say no to a decent chinese movement but seems that they are not very popular despite the huge progress they made in the last few years. What do you think ?
    I'm glad (and the admin must be quite happy) that there are more and more forum members who are trying to design and make a new watch. Welcome to the family
    If there is anything you might think I can contribute just let me know
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    Re: may I join the club?

    Great to her that you are still at it my friend. As for the chinese movement question, you can look inthe new Prometheus forum and see what movement they are using in the Asian watches. Just a thought.
    Keep up the hard work and keep on posting.
    Current Collection:
    Omega Speedmaster Pro-861 (Circa 69-71) Thanks Eptaz
    Baume & Mercier Hamptom Milleis 18K Gold
    Cartier Pasha C - ETA 2892-A2
    Casio DW7000 Quattro Graph
    Vostok Europe K-3 Submarine-Black Face-243
    Benrus Crossover Electric-ESA 9158 (Circa 1970)
    Louis Rossel Automatic- A.S. 1986 ( Circa 1970 )
    Howard Size 12 PW
    Hamilton 975 Size 16 PW
    Hamilton Vantage Size 6 PW
    Illinois Size 0 PW
    Hyman Berge Private Label Size 10 PW
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    Re: may I join the club?

    hi, just happen to drop by ... read your listing above... Sounds interesting a watch can be, but a picture is worth 1000 words. Possible to let us see the design? I'd definitely buy one if the price/design is right .

    good luck.

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    Re: may I join the club?

    Quote Originally Posted by octopussy View Post
    hi, just happen to drop by ... read your listing above... Sounds interesting a watch can be, but a picture is worth 1000 words. Possible to let us see the design? I'd definitely buy one if the price/design is right .

    good luck.
    Very true, but I'm still working on it. When finished I'll try to post a few pics and I'm very happy to hear that I already have a potential buyer. :thanks
    The design looks great to me because of the perfect reason: It's mine !
    Nothing sure about the price yet but I'll definitely keep it out from "a leg or a kidney" range, I don't have a name to sell . Somewhere in the low-mid range, I'll be more precise when I'll have the costs for all components.
    Last edited by workaholic_ro; September 5th, 2008 at 16:44.
    Renee Descartes walks into a bar, the bartender says 'sir can I get you a Martini ?', Descartes says 'I don't think...' and he disappears

    Cheers,
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