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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chascomm View Post


    Dress-style 2414 dial, date mechanism and cannon pinion, with an early 2409A base movement in a 2209 Ministry case with 22mm lugs.

    There's somebody with a bottomless parts bin...
    The dial-hands-movement assembly was probably swapped from a first-generation 2414 dress watch (bevelled bridges).

    Then the guy fitted the combo in an old Ministry case. 99% of the USSR-made Ministry Amphibia were automatic (21 jewels 2416), the only one with an old-generation hand-winding movement (2214) was seen some time ago in some factory pictures.

    The caseback has been probably swapped from an Amphibia tonneau, hence the 2209 inscription.

    Anyway, not only those watches are often messed up, but also sold for relatively high prices. But, hey, the crystal is probably original...it has more wrinkles than a Egyptian mummy.

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Another suspect watch. The balance wheel bridge has been replaced for sure (note the bevelled edge - the rest of the movement is not bevelled).

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    not to mention the 21 jewel inscription on the dial and im 99% sure that dial was only on the original ministry case

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Actually I would not mind having that dial!

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Quote Originally Posted by Melnyk View Post
    not to mention the 21 jewel inscription on the dial and im 99% sure that dial was only on the original ministry case
    Maybe i'm wrong, but i feel that that one was the only dial mounted on USSR-made Ministry Amphibia (type-71x case).

    Unless i don't remember some other variants but every time i see an old (21-jewels, USSR) Ministry Amphibia, it is equipped with black-anthracite dial and "coffin-shaped" marker at 12.

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Case, bezel, back, gasket, dial and crown are all original. Looks like the movement died and was replaced by a Chinese Standard automatic. The hands were probably transfered with the movement because they fit.

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    see not all franken doctors are us ukrainians.

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    And it's a manual winding watch !
    Parting with 30+ of my prized Soviet pieces over at sales corner.

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