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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Quote Originally Posted by roo7 View Post
    Well, there's a certain limit to restoring a watch, like cleaning the dial, re-luming the dials/hands etc.

    A fake dial is probably crossing the line for most of the collectors, as the watch is no longer authentic.
    I own a classic car, and had it repainted the same color..perhaps that will make it not as collectable ( I personally prefer mine with no rust holes but hey..I may be nutty!) As long as the face is a perfect repro, Id rather wear a Russian watch that looked new than one that had been sitting in a pond for a couple of years..( it had a new face at one time) just a thought, to each his own, I understand the history thing, but if I didnt want to wear it because it was too rough looking ..well it would be like trailering my classic car to shows..what fun would that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjmorrill08 View Post
    I own a classic car, and had it repainted the same color..perhaps that will make it not as collectable ( I personally prefer mine with no rust holes but hey..I may be nutty!) As long as the face is a perfect repro, Id rather wear a Russian watch that looked new than one that had been sitting in a pond for a couple of years..( it had a new face at one time) just a thought, to each his own, I understand the history thing, but if I didnt want to wear it because it was too rough looking ..well it would be like trailering my classic car to shows..what fun would that be?
    I don't own a car, but maybe the right comparison will be repainting a car is as good as cleaning up the dial or the case of the watch.

    Changing the engine (throwing out the old, replacing a brand new, perhaps another model's engine if it's possible) and the doors of the car is as bad as replacing the movement and the dial of the watch.



    Well, like you said, one man's meat is another man's poison.

    (Of course, we all would like our watches to be as close to a NOS condition as possible. )
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    Yes NOS is the grail, but tough to find! I have been looking for a Gagarin Shturmanskie (even a reissue would be nice..without the date!) But cant seem to find one with either the right hands, or the correct movement...I'll just keep looking!

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Hybrids ?









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    Re: Franken of the week...

    This Strela is for sale... but wait, something isn't right...

    - Wrong hands, should not taper
    - Wrong case, polished sides, lugs slightly wrong shape (though this could be because they had the edges polished off by a machine)
    - Chinese-made dial see the indices are cut wrong at subdials
    - Wrong crown, should be slim and stick out less

    Yet the overall effect is quite good, providing you don't look too closely. The devil is in the details, which seem to have been missed by 17 bidders so far.



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    people will just go crazy going against a strela........
    A cheapskate snoop....

    so many watches out there.... so little money....
    And the currency exchange rate is killing me......

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Should we start a new thread with identifying the outright fake Strelas and 15/17J Shturmanskie ?

    Maybe a post with the ebay item id and a picture ?

    We can limit the watches with fakes dials. As those are fake on purpose to make a profit.

    Watches with wrong hands or crown should be left out as collectors may go after them for surgery

    Any comments ?
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    Re: Franken of the week...

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    Fake dials for sale


    I don't know about this, looks crazy enough.

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    How about this one...

    Life is too short for drama & petty things, so laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly...

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    Re: Franken of the week...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xantiagib View Post
    How about this one...

    I saw this.

    Shot of the movement


    It's a 3017 movement with 1MWF signed on it.

    I'm guessing some one could have swapped the Venus 150 with 1MWF 3017 movement to pass off as a Movado watch.

    Here's a picture of a Movado Chronograph but I can't see if it's a 30min or 45min chrono.



    http://www.gregsteer.net/IWC/Chronog...ronographs.htm

    Interesting read too..

    It even explains the need additional 3,6,9 minute markers on the minute sub-dial. (This is new to me.)

    Notice the 3,6 and 9 minute markers on the minute counter for timing phone calls (these were charged in three minute intervals).
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