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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

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    - custom hands and dials for Vostok and others

    No ebay store

    Contact him through WUS:

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/member.php?u=266266



    see also: 'Colour Hands' post #318 of this thread / Guide
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    - custom hands and dials for Vostok and others

    No ebay store

    Contact him through WUS:

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/member.php?u=266266



    see also: 'Colour Hands' post #318 of this thread / Guide
    As always Matt, thank you, you always come through, have a good evening sir.
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    Question for veterans, while browsing meranoms site I noticed that there are 2 sizes of bezels
    A: Neptune which is 39.5mm diameter and 3.8mm thick
    B: 41mm insert and 4mm thick
    😄 39mm diameter and 3.4 mm thick

    1: Am I reading this right? But some bezel are wider so they could potentially go over the crown while others are slimmer and remain within the case?

    2: At the same time thick and height are the same? So you should buy a 4mm thick bezel for more protection over the plastic glass?

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techgeek23 View Post

    1: Am I reading this right? But some bezel are wider so they could potentially go over the crown while others are slimmer and remain within the case?

    2: At the same time thick and height are the same? So you should buy a 4mm thick bezel for more protection over the plastic glass?


    1. Yes, some bezels are wider than others and will reach over the crown


    - a wide bezel will reach over the crown slightly, more so on narrower cases such as 420 and 060

    - bezel width / diameter refers to the top portion and not the base diameter

    - bezels made for larger cases, 090 for example, have a wide base or very large top which will hit the crown on smaller cases

    - bezels made for all case models are universal
    -- they will not hit the crown of any case, but the top portion may reach over the crown

    - a wide, universal fit bezel has a wide top and narrow base
    -- if installed on a smaller case, the top will reach over the crown but it will not hit the crown

    - generally, a narrower bezel is best for the small 420 case which may appear overwhelmed and hidden by a large, wide bezel


    - you must only buy a bezel designed to fit your particular case
    -- all bezels of all sellers state which case models each bezel will fit; buy accordingly



    2. Yes, thickness = height

    thick / tall bezel = more protection for the glass / crystal


    - there is not much difference in height between Meranom bezels and standard, classic Vostok bezels:

    Standard bezel = about 3.4 mm
    Meranom bezel = 3.4, 3.8 and 4 mm

    - 4 mm will provide slightly more protection than 3.4 mm, but not much more


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    For maximum protection of glass / crystal:


    tall = more protection

    These are good choices:

    - dr.seikostain (ebay)
    - zavar011 (ebay)
    - am-diver (ebay): highly angled toward crystal = good protection
    - Murphy Manufacturing: (online store): VO1010 and VO1020 'Clean' bezel: tall and highly angled toward crystal = good protection
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_Bored_O View Post
    These are good choices:- dr.seikostain (ebay) - zavar011 (ebay)- am-diver (ebay): highly angled toward crystal = good protection- Murphy Manufacturing: (online store): VO1010 and VO1020 'Clean' bezel: tall and highly angled toward crystal = good protection
    Matt, Thanks a lot for your explanation and for taking the time to respond in such promptness to trivial questions, really appreciated.
    I am very new to Vostok and very excited at the same time.I just purchased my first vostok from amazon here in Canada and got a bezel from ebay seller name arkustime - they have not arrived yet (I did not know about meranom until 3 days ago - terrible I know).
    Another question: some bezels outside diameters are 39 - others are 39.5 and others 41mm. are inserts universal to fit them all? Thanks from Saskatchewan bro!
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Quote Originally Posted by Techgeek23 View Post

    Another question:

    - some bezel outside diameters are 39 - others are 39.5 and others 41mm.

    are inserts universal to fit them all?
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    Bezel Dimensions and Inserts



    MOST bezels currently produced for Vostok Amphibia are designed to fit the same size inserts.


    Bezel Insert:

    Seiko SKX007


    Insert Size:


    OD 38mm

    ID 31.5mm



    - the inserts may be either aluminum or ceramic
    -- ceramic inserts are not as brittle or fragile as you may think: you will be surprised
    -- they will not crack or chip when carefully installed and put through normal use

    - some ceramic inserts and am-diver aluminum inserts are angled slightly upward toward the crystal
    -- this is not a problem IF the dimensions are correct or if the description states it will fit any custom Vostok or other bezel designed for Seiko inserts (am-diver inserts are recommended to be installed only on am-diver bezels)

    Look at the sellers photos carefully and read the descriptions !!

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    Bezel Outside Diameter OD:

    - don't let this confuse you: the size of the area for the insert is basically the same size for all bezels regardless of the actual OD of the bezel

    - there is a narrow, raised lip on the outside of each bezel: some bezels have a narrow lip, others have a wide lip of several millimeters
    -- it is the width of this lip which changes the OD of a custom bezel

    - wide bezels are best with large cases


    - examples of bezels with wide lips:

    dr.sekiostain: 'The Redneck'
    zavar011: 'Toothed' (* see note)



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    NON Standard Insert Bezels:


    There a few sellers with bezels which are not designed for Seiko SKX007 inserts
    - they are often proprietary: their own special sizes

    You must read the description of each bezel carefully !!

    If the bezel is NOT for Seiko SKX007 inserts: you must buy the insert the seller has designed for his particular bezels

    -- this gives fewer choices of inserts and you do not have the choice to install Seiko inserts. But, many Vostok owners install an insert on a bezel with no intention to change it in the future


    A few examples: there may be more

    - bandukh: (ebay - US): use their own design inserts

    - am-diver: (ebay- Germany): not standard Seiko dimensions but very, very close: will fit standard custom bezels of other sellers
    -- some Vostok owners recommended to use only am-diver bezels for am-diver inserts

    - Meranom: ??? inserts appear to be narrower than Seiko SKX007: narrow is good for smaller cases
    -- it is recommended to use only Meranom inserts for Meranom bezels

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    Fully Assembled: Bezel and Insert

    - some sellers have bezels with the insert already installed

    PRO: this is the fastest and easiest route
    CON: the choices are somewhat limited


    **if a seller has both inserts and bezels but are not sold fully assembled:

    Ask seller if he can assemble them for you: most sellers of Vostok parts are very kind and helpful


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    Insert Mounting:

    Double Sided Tape: is best
    Rubber / Contact Cement: a good choice BUT: it usually contains acetone which could damage the paint - BE CAREFUL

    - most inserts are sold with double sided tape or similar

    If you are unsure if the insert comes with mounting tape, ask the seller !!


    dr.seikostain: his bezels are sold with tape but he also sells separately: 3M double sided tape which is already cut for the exact size required for Seiko SKX inserts


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    See also: post #1 of this thread / 'Guide':

    These headings:

    - 'Sellers: Custom Vostok bezels'

    - 'Bezel Inserts'


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    Notes:

    * currently, zavar011 (ebay-Israel) does not ship to Canada.
    Check with them periodically as they sometimes change this policy.
    You may have to use google to find such sellers because ebay will block them from you if you live in a country the seller does not ship to. If you have a friend in another country, you could have them buy the part, have it shipped to them, then sent to you.
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Hi all, I have some questions on modding Amphibias/Dirskies:

    1. Is there anyone who does custom crowns or crown engraving?

    2. Does anyone have any idea on how to create a patina effect for dials?

    Thanks for all answers provided!
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyota-kaiKarate View Post
    Hi all, I have some questions on modding Amphibias/Dirskies:

    1. Is there anyone who does custom crowns or crown engraving?

    2. Does anyone have any idea on how to create a patina effect for dials?

    Thanks for all answers provided!

    You can bake a dial in an oven which is something some people do it seems. It seems to turn the lume a brownish colour depending on how long you leave it in for. Times and temperatures seem a bit random so it may be that you have to keep a very close eye on it! I've baked a bezel and the lume pip did indeed look old/brown from it's original green. Again, it doesn't seem like an exact science and you rmileage may vary given the lume type/dial material..I can't really vouch for it as a method as I don't have the experience. I remember seeing f10 member ThePossumKing's baked dial and the surface of the dial had really cracked giving it a nice worn vintage (semi destroyed!) look..

    You can also try staining the lume or markers with tea/coffee from what I stumbled upon..was thinking of doing this to my new hands which have very white lume which doesn't match the creamy faux patina of the dial markers..not sure if I'll do this though ;)

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    Thanks a lot Matt, all info has been noted.
    Cheers bud !
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