Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie
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    Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Hey all.

    First time posting in this forum. This is the first time I've actually had a watch to ask a question about here.

    I picked up this Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie locally and it was a nice watch to find since Russian watches rarely come up for sale around here.

    I was drawn to the dial, which has turned a nice cream colour from the original white, and the fact that it's a large hand wind watch. I don't really like automatic movements very much.

    I got the watch home and after winding and setting it was running +5 minutes per hour. Removing the case back showed that a couple of the hairspring coils were stuck together. I removed the balance, cleaned the spring and replaced the balance and now it's running -30 seconds per day.

    My question is about the date for this one. The lack of the Cyrillic "Made In USSR" or "Made In Russia" at the 6 o'clock position means it's an early 1990s transitional dial. However from what I've read here, the early 90s transitional watches do not have a serial number on the case back which this watch does have.

    If anyone can shed some light on this it would be much appreciated. I hope it's not a Frankenwatch.

    I had bought this watch with a plan to flip it but at this point I'm going to hold onto it for a bit and enjoy it myself.

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    Re: Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Raposo View Post
    Hey all.

    First time posting in this forum. This is the first time I've actually had a watch to ask a question about here.

    I picked up this Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie locally and it was a nice watch to find since Russian watches rarely come up for sale around here.

    I was drawn to the dial, which has turned a nice cream colour from the original white, and the fact that it's a large hand wind watch. I don't really like automatic movements very much.

    I got the watch home and after winding and setting it was running +5 minutes per hour. Removing the case back showed that a couple of the hairspring coils were stuck together. I removed the balance, cleaned the spring and replaced the balance and now it's running -30 seconds per day.

    My question is about the date for this one. The lack of the Cyrillic "Made In USSR" or "Made In Russia" at the 6 o'clock position means it's an early 1990s transitional dial. However from what I've read here, the early 90s transitional watches do not have a serial number on the case back which this watch does have.

    If anyone can shed some light on this it would be much appreciated. I hope it's not a Frankenwatch.

    I had bought this watch with a plan to flip it but at this point I'm going to hold onto it for a bit and enjoy it myself.
    Imho, no rule in this “transitional” (sounds better than mayhem or “bardak” or “ma che casino!”) period. It has an antimagnetic back together with “Antimagnetic” dial print, which is good enough.
    Many watches were made from any stock that could get assembled. Workers needed to survive while having no salary, is all. A serial number on the back, anyway, wouldn’t make it a franken, or fakewurst. Just a back which happened to be numbered...

    Beside, most of us proudly manufacture Frankenstinskiye here. We just call them “mods”.
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    Re: Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Here's the Soviet-marked version in the 1993 Vostok catalogue, I wouldn't worry about the serial number on the case back as Vostok were still putting serial numbers on their case backs in 1992 and possibly a little later.

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    Re: Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Thank you PanKorop and Avidfan for your quick replies and thoughts on this watch.

    Good to read that it's correct. I don't get to handle Russian watches too often so it's good to find a forum like this one with more experienced collectors.

    And I very much appreciate learning about the history from this time period. I first learned about Russian made watches in an issue of GQ magazine from 1989. The article was a very romanticized picture of Russian manufacturing during this time. When I find find the issue I'll post the article and pics.
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    Re: Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Quote Originally Posted by Avidfan View Post
    Here's the Soviet-marked version in the 1993 Vostok catalogue
    I thought I had seen that here but couldn't find it again. Thanks Avidfan for posting that here.
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    Re: Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Raposo View Post
    I thought I had seen that here but couldn't find it again. Thanks Avidfan for posting that here.
    In case you get any more Russian watches this is a good site for catalogues: https://get.google.com/albumarchive/...39036073221216
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    Re: Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Quote Originally Posted by Avidfan View Post
    In case you get any more Russian watches this is a good site for catalogues: https://get.google.com/albumarchive/...39036073221216
    Tremendous site Avidfan, thank you
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    Re: Looking For Some Info: Vostok Amphibia Submarine Komandirskie

    Here are the items from the old GQ mags. The first is an advert from the November 1989 issue for the big 0 watch:

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    And I misremembered with these next pics. There were also part of an advertising section from the December 1989 issue, not an article:

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