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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamburov View Post
    I'm considering this Kama for about $20. Bought a Mir from the same seller and thinking of combined shipping. The Kamas I've had before were nowhere near the condition of this one. Even though it's relatively cheap, I would buy it only if it's authentic, as I already bought quite a few this week.
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    I would not be interested in that one since it has dial feet repair showing through to the dial face at 5 and 11 which would make me wonder.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamburov View Post
    For all reading, this is a non authentic FRANKEN watch!
    Another sad example of good watches being orphaned of their gold plated cases for melting and cased in whatever is laying arround.
    Don't be so sure. There are always surprises in this hobby....

    According to the catalogs, baton hands and a chromed case are fully legit :)


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    Re: Vostok classification database draft

    Can anyone give me more info on this watch? I can't find any others that look quite like it so I'm thinking it's a franken. I hope I'm wrong.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi everyone. I got into watches pretty recently and Russian watches seemed like a good place to start. Do you guys think this is a redial/franken? It looks a bit too clean to me. The eBay seller said that all replacement parts are genuine but also said that they didn't offer a guarantee so I'm not sure what to think. They do have a 100% feedback rating, though I'm not sure what that's really worth.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi, SoundsFerg, and welcome to the forum! This is the 1987 catalogue with the chromed and gold plated models with this dial. The only difference I see is the second hand, it looks black in the catalogue. The red one is also quite short so it may be from a different model. Is there a photo of the movement?
    Generally from the outside looks like a genuine raketa with a replaced second hand and some wear at the back. Hope it's reasonably priced.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamburov View Post
    Hi, SoundsFerg, and welcome to the forum! This is the 1987 catalogue with the chromed and gold plated models with this dial. The only difference I see is the second hand, it looks black in the catalogue. The red one is also quite short so it may be from a different model. Is there a photo of the movement?
    Generally from the outside looks like a genuine raketa with a replaced second hand and some wear at the back. Hope it's reasonably priced.
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    The dial and case look like the same but to me the minutehand is much longer in the catalog then on the watch (the same goes for the second hand), and also on the dial the watch has the first class stamp (and not in the catalog).

    Al that being said I'm not saying this watch isn't orginal nor am I saying this watch isn't a fanken watch... I just don't know enough to say anything...

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    How about this Type-1? Is it the type of watch that may have been used in the war?

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by SennaGTS View Post
    How about this Type-1? Is it the type of watch that may have been used in the war?

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    Hard to say since it appears almost any functioning watch had a chance to end up on the wrist of a soldier. That one looks like a Second Moscow pocket watch that was given lugs so that it could be worn as a wristwatch. The date I read as 1940 so that is correct for a wwII piece. There are some who believe the ones made specifically for the military had a 24 hr. dial as pictured below. Regardless, a very interesting dial.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Hard to say since it appears almost any functioning watch had a chance to end up on the wrist of a soldier. That one looks like a Second Moscow pocket watch that was given lugs so that it could be worn as a wristwatch. The date I read as 1940 so that is correct for a wwII piece. There are some who believe the ones made specifically for the military had a 24 hr. dial as pictured below. Regardless, a very interesting dial.

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    I'm guessing there are quite a few frankens and "fakes" claiming to be from the era around, with reproduction dials and hands.

    Do these old watches also contain radioactive material for the lume?

    How about these two? They're like the 24 hour version, but the hands are completely different.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    I think they look okay although there is a lumable second hand that is missing from those two. I'm not sure if that is a defect or not. If there is original lume left anywhere on the watch dial or hands then it's radioactive and you should take necessary precautions to protect yourself from inhaling or ingesting any particles. If you never open the watch then I wouldn't worry about the old lume but that's your decision.

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