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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by SennaGTS View Post
    I know Slava made quite a few versions of this style watch. But what do you think of this one?
    legit.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmnc View Post
    It does indeed have a dome. So many of them do that I thought nothing of it.




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    I don't have one of those in my collection right now but that case and crystal should be the same as the big zero:

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    A Vostok...and a Sekonda...

    The Vostok is tempting me for some reason...

    The Sekonda I already bought...I just couldn't help myself...it's pretty LOL!!! :P






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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi All - new to the world of vintage Russian watches, but I love it already... dangerous!

    Please could you let me know what you think of these two?

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesnorrisuk View Post
    Hi All - new to the world of vintage Russian watches, but I love it already... dangerous!

    Please could you let me know what you think of these two?
    The komandirskie has an incorrect case, incorrect seconds hand, and incorrect case back. I'd avoid it. There are quite a lot if this same dialed model available on eBay/Etsy. It should look like this, in either gold plated or chromed brass:

    Edit - actually, everything looks wrong. The hands should be gold, not silver, and the numbers on the dial don't look to be the correct style either. Good luck!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesnorrisuk View Post
    Hi All - new to the world of vintage Russian watches, but I love it already... dangerous!

    Please could you let me know what you think of these two?

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    First one looks fine and is a nice example. Second one is a common re-dial and everything else mentioned by bpmurray. Every one of those printed komandirskie dials has the little upturn at the base end of the "hand painted" "2" in "12". Each of those dials if authentic should be unique.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesnorrisuk View Post
    Hi All - new to the world of vintage Russian watches, but I love it already... dangerous!

    Please could you let me know what you think of these two?
    I have exactly the same NOS Raketa 24. Legit.
    Komandirskie look right to me as well, but I am not an expert so dont quote me on.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    jamesnorrisuk - the komandirskie also has a new dial. Note that the bottom of the number 2 at 12 o'clock has a raised end, compared to bpmurray's correct example which doesn't. Note also that the lume applied to the indices is very crisp, original lume was applied more erratically.

    The other Vostok also has a wrong caseback - it's an export model (English lettering on dial and movement) and the case should normally have English lettering. It is also for the wrong movment, 2214 when the movement is a 2209.

    Another tip: In general, look very carefully at any watch coming out of the Ukraine. Certainly not all are frankens or fakes but unfortunately many are!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Thanks all for the heads up, thought the komandirskie looked a little mish-mashed... the Raketa on the other hand may find its way into my watch box/wrist!

    Out of interest, if Ukraine is risky business, where do you guys tend to look for your collections?

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by sideways2 View Post
    A Vostok...and a Sekonda...

    The Vostok is tempting me for some reason...


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    I would pass on it.
    If I am not mistaken it's model 2209/401219, listed on page 36 of the 1977 Watch Catalog/Vol.1 with the Sekonda brand.
    It shouldn't have gilded hands but nickel plated ones, hours and minutes with lume and seconds of a different shape.
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