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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hey guys,

    I wasn't really looking for it but I found this Sturmanksie. It is reaaally expensive but seems to be in great condition. I looked at some of the guides here on the forum about 17 jeweled Sturmanskie and this one seems to be good to my untrained eye.

    This is the guide I used:
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f54/everything-you-need-know-about-sturmanskie-15-jewel-17-jewel-version-1063349.html

    What do you guys think? Is it original?
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by SennaGTS View Post
    How often is this one found in NOS condition, considering it's from the 80s I'm guessing?

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    A cadet with a similar (but different dial) if it's of any help:

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeroenskie View Post
    Hey guys,

    I wasn't really looking for it but I found this Sturmanksie. It is reaaally expensive but seems to be in great condition. I looked at some of the guides here on the forum about 17 jeweled Sturmanskie and this one seems to be good to my untrained eye.

    This is the guide I used:
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f54/everything-you-need-know-about-sturmanskie-15-jewel-17-jewel-version-1063349.html

    What do you guys think? Is it original?
    Hi Jeroenskie,

    That one looks good to me! The dial looks matte as it should for the 17j version; without dial removed photos, its impossible to see the edge to know if its correctly flat or beveled. The patina is correct for the age, and the lume looks correctly aged as well. The minute hand extending into the minute track matches with other known correct examples (Shturmanskie Gagarin. - Page 16). For your reading pleasure, here is a very lengthy thread that really dives into these beautiful watches: https://forums.watchuseek.com/f10/sht...n-3988458.html

    For a 17j version in that condition, the price is actually pretty fair. Recent eBay sales have been even more expensive, although data for 17j Sturmanskie's is somewhat limited. That particular seller has a good reputation as well, for what it's worth.

    Good luck! Post photos after it arrives if you decide to buy it.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by bpmurray View Post
    Hi Jeroenskie,

    That one looks good to me! The dial looks matte as it should for the 17j version; without dial removed photos, its impossible to see the edge to know if its correctly flat or beveled. The patina is correct for the age, and the lume looks correctly aged as well. The minute hand extending into the minute track matches with other known correct examples (Shturmanskie Gagarin. - Page 16). For your reading pleasure, here is a very lengthy thread that really dives into these beautiful watches: https://forums.watchuseek.com/f10/sht...n-3988458.html

    For a 17j version in that condition, the price is actually pretty fair. Recent eBay sales have been even more expensive, although data for 17j Sturmanskie's is somewhat limited. That particular seller has a good reputation as well, for what it's worth.

    Good luck! Post photos after it arrives if you decide to buy it.
    Thanks for looking at it! I think you're right about the price maybe a better way to put it is that its reaaally expensive to me haha. But it looks so good and it's such an iconic piece so I'm still debating. So thanks for the comments!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

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    Well, I have another one for you guys. A hopefully less franken one. The hands look good to my untrained eye and the case back looks correct for the time. What do the experts think?
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by SennaGTS View Post
    How often is this one found in NOS condition, considering it's from the 80s I'm guessing?

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    If there is a scarcity of NOS examples of that one I would say it has more to do with the unusual dial than the age which, by the way, is more like late '80s early '90s, I think.

    This one is pictured in the '90 Vostok catalog with an identical looking case with the distinctive gold case finish and chrome crown (doesn't appear to have a chrome bezel, however, unless it's just a lighting problem):

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Dub Rubb View Post
    Well, I have another one for you guys. A hopefully less franken one. The hands look good to my untrained eye and the case back looks correct for the time. What do the experts think?
    Legit. Very nice condition.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Dub Rubb - TheBryansk Automobile Plantwas founded in 1958, so assuming your watch celebrates the 25th anniversary, it should date to 1983. Looks like a beautiful example!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Legit. Very nice condition.
    Commissioned komandirskie with late'80s - early '90s Lada automobile dial, I think.

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