More food for thought:
the little voice has been bothering me lately about my most recent Amphibian...
hands should match the hour marks, yes, sooo is this a stylish franken or a rare exception?
Or am I missing something else entirely?
so I take it then, there are -generally speaking- at least two ways for the hands to match the colour of dial marks?
a) either with the separate lume dots or lines, or
b) with the colour embedded in the metal markers
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f10/fra...eek-88091.html -- What's your point?
But last one, in my opinion, is definitely a franken: Generalskie dial/hands in the wrong case. Plenty of these examples exist, they're not rare (1, 2, 3, 4). Perhaps an Amphibian version of this watch was also made, but then I would expect an arrow hour hand, wouldn't you?
The Rising Sun is franken, too. Those black Amphibia hands have no business on that watch, in my opinion (1, 2, 3).
I'll admit the other three look at least potentially legitimate, but they all share the same black Amphibian hands, which sometimes look out of place. So maybe they're all from the same era in Chistopol history when any sort of regulation and quality control went out the window. Or maybe Ivan was having a rough day. Or maybe they're all franken. Who knows.
In the end, I would stress again that the features I listed could be considered "relatively firm principles" rather than hard-and-fast rules. I stand by my classifications thus far.
But keep the contrary evidence coming, and maybe we can refine some of our 'principles' 👍
Edit: Oh, and speaking of looking out of place, have a closer look at this one. Silver/white indices paired with jet-black hands? Reeks of franken to me.
Last edited by mroatman; September 22nd, 2017 at 12:32.
But as a general rule of thumb, yes, the hands should have some correspondence to the hour markers. This could be in color, material, luminosity, or general style. It's one of the things that makes well-designed watches appear, well, well-designed.
So, your generalskie compilation based on case style and material, backs, movement seems to work but, as often happens with Russian watches, some little detail such as the hands may exist in a form that can't be explained and shouldn't be dismissed, off hand, as a "franken" necessarily. Our "expectations" aren't always fulfilled completely.
The Rising Sun "generalskie" was in your batch of pictured examples, by the way.
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