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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hope this link works: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/vostok-amphibia


    The lume on the watch in the clippings looks white to me and matches the white of the dial, sand-coloured lume I think is just down to ageing.



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    "I can say "sand-colored" lume is a peculiarity of Series I Self-Winding Vostok Amphibian Desert Shield Export Watches. I attach photos of wristwatches of this Series I with various serial numbers used and stored in different environment."
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Bostok View Post
    Any thoughts on the authenticity/history of this Poljot (thanks to your help in the translation topic) model, I didnít manage to find a similar model with this particular logo?
    Probably the original watch had a different crown and a crystal with date magnifier.

    Here's your watch in the 1960 catalog:


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    And in the 1970 catalog:



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    I believe this is the first model to ever use the name Полет on a wristwatch. In 1960, this would have preceded the name change from "First Moscow Watch Factory" to "Poljot".

    I am aware of four variations:


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    See more images here: https://forums.watchuseek.com/f10/pol...x-2627562.html

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    I would just add that the Cyrillc script "flight" logo was stylized to represent a "sputnik" flashing by on top.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hello,

    I saw this Komandirskiye in a case 350. If you look carefully, the Lum on hand and minute marks is greener than on digits.
    Is a legitimate or Franken-mate? Thanks.


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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Haricosec View Post
    Hello,

    I saw this Komandirskiye in a case 350. If you look carefully, the Lum on hand and minute marks is greener than on digits.
    Is a legitimate or Franken-mate? Thanks.

    That dial and hands do not belong in a type 350 case. Not authentic.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    That dial and hands do not belong in a type 350 case. Not authentic.
    noted. Thanks.


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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Haricosec View Post
    Hello,

    I saw this Komandirskiye in a case 350. If you look carefully, the Lum on hand and minute marks is greener than on digits.
    Is a legitimate or Franken-mate? Thanks.
    In my opinion it's a complete franken.

    It appears that a Komandirskie dial has been "refreshed", I've never seen a mismatch of lume before. The hands also have a different shade of lume, so all up 3 shades of lume sort of nails it as a franken.

    The 350 case was never issued with a Komandirskie dial, and it was only ever issued with either paddle hands (300m version) or the necktie hands on the standard 200m version.

    Also the bezel shown was normally only used on the later 119 cased Amphibia. however I've seen quite a few 350's sporting this bezel, but I'm still not convinced it was ever sold like that.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Haricosec View Post
    Hello,

    I saw this Komandirskiye in a case 350. If you look carefully, the Lum on hand and minute marks is greener than on digits.
    Is a legitimate or Franken-mate? Thanks.

    wostok,–’–ž–°–Ę–ž–š wostok 0104 franken | eBay there in the title it is written that it is franken.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by 24 Hours View Post
    I wrote a message to the seller to ask about the lume of this Timepeace Operation Desert Shield watch and he confirmed that the original lume color was "sand-colored" (a word I came up with). Itís certainly not hard evidence, but I take it as pretty strong circumstantial evidence and find it very interesting. This is what he wrote and these are the images he attached. I hope you find it interesting too, and I hope you donít find my "obsession" too annoying!
    Not sure what to make of it, but I thought I'd leave these images here:


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