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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Hey all, I feel like a complete noob and would appreciate any info!

    I bought a Poljot deluxe 23j 2209 off ebay but after browsing through this forum for hours, I'm worried it's not an authentic dial. Can anyone give me more information on this watch? And if it's not authentic, any tips for the future?

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by amil View Post
    wostok,ВОСТОК wostok 0104 franken | eBay there in the title it is written that it is franken.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by pandy4 View Post
    Hey all, I feel like a complete noob and would appreciate any info!

    I bought a Poljot deluxe 23j 2209 off ebay but after browsing through this forum for hours, I'm worried it's not an authentic dial. Can anyone give me more information on this watch? And if it's not authentic, any tips for the future?

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    Okay, where to start. The dial is a reproduction. "Slashes" should have parallel sides with pointy ends; that one has curved sides. Further, if we accept the case is correct then the movement is too old and vice-versa.
    Also the case back should have parallel polishing marks for that movement; I can't make out what's on that one. Crown and crystal have been replaced. Hands look okay for a 2209 watch but which watch, I don't know.

    Hope it runs well and you didn't pay too much. There are some good parts there.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    What he said :)

    If you are looking for that type of watch...this thread should help...

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f10/pol...a-3851594.html
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mroatman View Post
    Not sure what to make of it, but I thought I'd leave these images here:


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    So, definitely a timepiece made for Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. A reflection I've made is that it's pretty common to see this dial on non Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. copies to be pretty badly faded (especially the stars and strips) but still having a, let's say, whiteish lume. However, the Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. NOS copies often have non-faded, perfect dials where the lume is sort of redish/brownish. Maybe [email protected] could shed some true light on this if asked, or perhaps better yet, try to get in touch with the people at Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. (it seems the company still exists) to see what they possibly know about it.

    BTW, just bought this Vostok (non Timepeace Russian Watches Inc.) Komandirskie and Cadet. Can't wait for them!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hey guys.... is it just me or this second hand is wrong?





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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by XsiOn View Post
    Hey guys.... is it just me or this second hand is wrong?
    All three hands appear original, but all three seem to have been painted white (the lume slot of the hour/minute hands, and the body of the second hand). And maybe the lume pip on the second hand has been painted orange/pink.

    So we could say original, but 'refreshed'.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Okay, where to start. The dial is a reproduction. "Slashes" should have parallel sides with pointy ends; that one has curved sides. Further, if we accept the case is correct then the movement is too old and vice-versa.
    Also the case back should have parallel polishing marks for that movement; I can't make out what's on that one. Crown and crystal have been replaced. Hands look okay for a 2209 watch but which watch, I don't know.

    Hope it runs well and you didn't pay too much. There are some good parts there.
    Awesome, thank you for your help. It was around $65 but I think I'm going to get a refund, as it actually doesn't keep time too well. Ends up being about 5 minutes too fast in less than 24H, which is a bit annoying. I'm not sure if it's because the movement is old, or what.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by pandy4 View Post
    Awesome, thank you for your help. It was around $65 but I think I'm going to get a refund, as it actually doesn't keep time too well. Ends up being about 5 minutes too fast in less than 24H, which is a bit annoying. I'm not sure if it's because the movement is old, or what.
    Probably needs a service. I think with a little patience you could do better for that kind of money. I know it seems cumbersome but posting choices before buying is one way to maximize your chances of getting something authentic and at the right price.

    Five minutes could probably be regulated out by nudging the regulating arm on the balance slightly with a wooden toothpick as shown below:

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Probably needs a service. I think with a little patience you could do better for that kind of money. I know it seems cumbersome but posting choices before buying is one way to maximize your chances of getting something authentic and at the right price.

    Five minutes could probably be regulated out by nudging the regulating arm on the balance slightly with a wooden toothpick as shown below:

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    Thanks so much for the info! Really appreciate it as someone with (clearly) very little expertise. I'm currently looking at poljot watches on ebay, could you tell me the difference between the 2209 movement and the 2409 movement? Is one more reliable than another?

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