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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neruda View Post
    Any thoughts on this bezel and dial? Vostok movement and caseback seem correct. Thanks!
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    I'm not 100% certain, but if I were to hazard a guess I would say that the case and bezel are from either the "Vostok Century Time" or "Vostok Partner" series of 3rd party watch cases. I suggest that the Komandirskie dial, hands and movement were not originally sold with the case, however they appear to be genuine Vostok parts.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mariomart View Post
    You have chosen well

    This is a Type 320 Vostok Amphibia from pre-1991. The dial is original and correct for the case type, the "12" is the correct faded orange. The hands are original and correct, the lume is sufficiently aged and matches the dial. The bezel is correct for the case and dial, and original (not reproduction). The crown is correct for the case.

    Without being able to see the caseback or movement, you should find the caseback has the word "Amphibia" written Cyrillic, and upon opening the case you should find a soft metal (brass) shield covering the movement which provides the antimagnetic shielding as mentioned on the dial. The movement should be a manual wind Vostok 2409 with 17 Jewels.

    Enjoy and wear it with a smile.
    Wonderful news! thank you, will definitely spend quality time on my wrist.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mailmanmgic View Post
    Wonderful news! thank you, will definitely spend quality time on my wrist.
    I also should mention "Welcome to f10 the Russian watch forum"

    I look forward to seeing your collection grow.

    Cheers, Mario

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mailmanmgic View Post
    Wonderful news! thank you, will definitely spend quality time on my wrist.
    And here is a scan of the Tento Vostok catalog from 1990.

    Don't be concerned about the bezel shown, as the Type 320 was also sold with the black bezel you have shown on yours.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    How about this Poljot?

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Pentona View Post
    How about this Poljot?

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    I would say there's at least a 75% probability that it's authentic but it is not in the '83 catalog I use which is the first time the 23 jewel automatics show up and there's a 9 year gap in the Poljot catalogs that are available to me and it's not in the '92 catalog. So it's from the '80s is about all I can say and it looks authentic. If you're getting it for a good price and/or you just like it it may be worth buying but I tend to be a stickler and if I can't find it in a catalog I pass knowing that there are plenty others out there that can be authenticated.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by 24 Hours View Post
    So, definitely a timepiece made for Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. A reflection I've made is that it's pretty common to see this dial on non Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. copies to be pretty badly faded (especially the stars and strips) but still having a, let's say, whiteish lume. However, the Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. NOS copies often have non-faded, perfect dials where the lume is sort of redish/brownish. Maybe [email protected] could shed some true light on this if asked, or perhaps better yet, try to get in touch with the people at Timepeace Russian Watches Inc. (it seems the company still exists) to see what they possibly know about it.
    BTW, just bought this Vostok (non Timepeace Russian Watches Inc.) Komandirskie and Cadet. Can't wait for them!
    Another piece of evidence: wostok. wostok, vostok. восток 100

    The hands are obviously wrong, but the dial may offer some details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariomart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mailmanmgic View Post
    Wonderful news! thank you, will definitely spend quality time on my wrist.
    And here is a scan of the Tento Vostok catalog from 1990.

    Don't be concerned about the bezel shown, as the Type 320 was also sold with the black bezel you have shown on yours.

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    Hi Mario, as you've said and as per the brochure it says the watch is equipped with a 2409 movement. The seller claims it has a 2209 movement, please help me out of this confusion, here is a picture of the movement. Thank you so much
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mailmanmgic View Post
    Hi Mario, as you've said and as per the brochure it says the watch is equipped with a 2409 movement. The seller claims it has a 2209 movement, please help me out of this confusion, here is a picture of the movement. Thank you so much
    Seller is wrong, it's a 2409, all is well.

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