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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mroatman View Post
    Looks good to me, but beware this is a very, very small watch. I like vintage watches (which are usually far smaller than modern watches), but even this is too small for me. Most would call it a ladies watch or a children's watch.

    But it seems as though you've done your research, so I hope you enjoy it!
    Thanks! I think the size will be perfect for me. I have about a 5.5" wrist, which is why I like vintage watches
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by pandy4 View Post
    Thanks! I think the size will be perfect for me. I have about a 5.5" wrist, which is why I like vintage watches
    Same size as my boy and he has a Sekonda and a Luch now :)

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Just negotiated a decent price (I believe) for this eBay Komandirskie.

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    I'm pretty sure it's legit, but I'm not so sure about the hands Most (if not all) other examples that I've seen with this case and "golden" dial have also had "golden hands", but not this watch which has black hands. I think the black hands go very well with this dial, but it would be interesting to know if they are the original hands. So, what do you think?
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by dutchassasin View Post
    When it arrives try to measure the diameter of the lug hole. Perhaps a set from the Poljot Basilika line fits.
    Or try to find it on esslinger / ofrei. I think its called something like: T-Bar Screw Lug
    POLJOT BASILIKA | Stege mit Schrauben für Armband montre russe russian watch | eBay
    https://www.esslinger.com/watch-band...-screw-refills
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    Thanks to dutchassasin I bought myself a pair of really nice T-Bars (18 and 20 mm) they both fit perfect. My problem now is where to find a band. The one for basilica has to big hole in the middle... Any Ideas?

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by 24 Hours View Post
    Just negotiated a decent price (I believe) for this eBay Komandirskie.

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    I'm pretty sure it's legit, but I'm not so sure about the hands Most (if not all) other examples that I've seen with this case and "golden" dial have also had "golden hands", but not this watch which has black hands. I think the black hands go very well with this dial, but it would be interesting to know if they are the original hands. So, what do you think?
    I assume you know they are black, comrade, because plated hands can often look black due to the angle of lighting. Under magnification the hands aren't as black as the Vostok "B" on the dial:

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    I did not see a single set of hands in Michelle's extensive collection that I would definitely say were black while many with light dials had plated hands.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    How about this one? The hand look odd to me.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Uros TSI View Post
    How about this one? The hand look odd to me.

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    Hands look okay and go with that dial. The problem is that that dial is newer than the movement and I would guess someone had an older 2809 in a gold case with that movement that needed a dial/hands and voila!

    Here's mine, usually found in the catalog as a 2809A, circa 1968-70:

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Hands look okay and go with that dial. The problem is that that dial is newer than the movement and I would guess someone had an older 2809 in a gold case with that movement that needed a dial/hands and voila!

    Here's mine, usually found in the catalog as a 2809A, circa 1968-70:

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    Whoa! Sorry, comrades, that's a different dial. I believe the story could remain the same but I can't vouch for that dial/hand combination which is close but not identical to mine. Will have to research.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Whoa! Sorry, comrades, that's a different dial. I believe the story could remain the same but I can't vouch for that dial/hand combination which is close but not identical to mine. Will have to research.
    Can't authenticate that dial/hand combination but I'm pretty comfortable saying the dial is not old enough to go with that movement due to the "Boctok" branding.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi guys and gals,

    Opinions on this Okean? A great deal just popped up on this, but wanna be sure before pulling the trigger. Everything looks OK to my untrained eyes, but I've been fooled before.

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