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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    That is a so-called "precision" version of the 2609.HA movement, 2609.ПР. I've never heard a convincing reason for why it is more precise, but I believe it has something to do with the metal used in the balance hair spring. However, that one's had its balance replaced so I guess it's a moot point. Several Raketa models had the ПР movement standard. I believe the one best known is the Copernicus.

    Here are a bunch from an '85 catalog:

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Very interesting ! Thanks, Schnurrp.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Neruda View Post
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    Any thoughts on this supposedly Raketa movement? Bevelled balance bridge seems out with the rest, but I'm wondering about the marking. Is this a 2609HA, a variant, or a fake? Thanks.
    A fake what? 2609.NP ? No idea what that means, but I can confidently say that only Raketa have ever made a movement that looks like this. Can't say if any parts have been changed. What does it look like from the other side? Should be 12 hour time, sweep second hand and no calendar functions.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    And about this Elektronika; is it a Franken?
    Tks in advance.




    Step by step i will be there.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Just bought this fairly scratched up Pobeda, the crown looks too new and in good condition to be original, what about the rest? How much would you say is a fair price? Thanks in advance!Name:  IMG_4364.JPG
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Spannerman View Post
    Just bought this fairly scratched up Pobeda, the crown looks too new and in good condition to be original, what about the rest? How much would you say is a fair price? Thanks in advance!Name:  IMG_4364.JPG
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    Classic First Moscow Pobeda with what looks like the original crystal and movement. Going by the size of the movement in the case, pretty good overall size for an old Pobeda. Crown looks new but not too far off in shape, a little big.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Sansoni7 View Post
    And about this Elektronika; is it a Franken?
    Tks in advance.


    Looks fine. These were made for a long time and I guess they were popular going by the number still available. If you're patient, for a little more $ (or not) you can get the original bracelet with it.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi schnurrp and tks for your information.
    Can you please show me an original bracelet?
    Thank you very much.


    Step by step i will be there.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Sansoni7 View Post
    Hi schnurrp and tks for your information.
    Can you please show me an original bracelet?
    Thank you very much.
    Look here: https://photos.app......../RPKQQQPHn5qQZCR93
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Thank you schnurrp.

    Now i will try to find oneto buy.


    Step by step i will be there.

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