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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Neruda View Post
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    Any thoughts on this supposedly Raketa movement? Bevelled balance bridge seems out with the rest, but I'm wondering about the marking. Is this a 2609HA, a variant, or a fake? Thanks.
    I'm not enough familiar with the Raketa movements to make any definitive claims, but this looks like a 2609.НП (NP). I believe this movement is a 2609 "de luxe", and if I remember correctly I believe it has a hairspring of a high-quality or higher quality alloy, but that's about all I know and I'm not even sure about that. Hopefully one of our comrade experts will chime in.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Spannerman View Post
    Just bought this fairly scratched up Pobeda, the crown looks too new and in good condition to be original, what about the rest? How much would you say is a fair price? Thanks in advance!
    Replaced crown and hands. $20.


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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mroatman View Post


    Replaced crown and hands. $20.


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    Thanks for your help! What makes you say the hands are replaced? The only slight difference I can see is on the tail of the second hand. Any help is appreciated, first time dipping my toe into vintage.


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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi Friends,

    what do you think of this Precision? I never saw this hands in combination with this dial. They look more like Volna to me. And dial is also quite new for the age....?







    Thanks, Peter

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    I believe there are only a couple dials that would be authentic with that old movement and that's not one of them. One or the other does not belong. Also there is a reproduction of that dial out. I would be suspicious of that and interested only at a low price for parts without a lot more investigation.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Does anybody know if this is a fake one? I've never seen this dial before
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Robotmensch View Post
    Does anybody know if this is a fake one? I've never seen this dial before
    I suspect that this dial belonged to a different model Komandirskie with a type 34 case, and was inserted into the type 29 case you have shown. The original dial in the type 29 looked very similar.

    I have supplied scans of the 1990 Tento Vostok catalog so you can see what I mean. The case you have shown should have the Red Star dial.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    The links don't work for me - but you led me in the rights direction (I have the catalogues on my Google Drive :) ) I guess you meant the 291223 and 341226?

    Thanks a lot for your help - you saved me a few $ :) :)

    Too bad though, as finally there was a Komandirskie that I really liked the look of :)
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Robotmensch View Post
    The links don't work for me - but you led me in the rights direction (I have the catalogues on my Google Drive :) ) I guess you meant the 291223 and 341226?

    Thanks a lot for your help - you saved me a few $ :) :)

    Too bad though, as finally there was a Komandirskie that I really liked the look of :)
    Yeah links/attachments have been screwy for the past week, but you hit the nail on the head as those are the correct model numbers I was trying to post.

    Sometimes if the price is low enough it's fine to purchase watches that bring a smile to your dial regardless of authenticity

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Well done, mariomart. Also when you see a komandirskie with two sets of minute marks, there's a problem.

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