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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    I would like to post pictures or a hyperlink to my query above, but apparently as a new member I'm not allowed to do so even though I did try to upload the pictures directly.

    So hopefully this post (and other assorted worthless junk posts I'm going to post up these next few days) would bring up my post count to a sufficient level for me to post up genuine queries and contributions, WITH pictures and links, to this forum.

    I'm not here to post up sales. Even at the FPN I hardly sold anything even though I currently own nearly 400 fountain pens

    Shahrin
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by shahrincamille View Post
    Hi

    I'm Shahrin from Malaysia. Just need an opinion (the first of many to come) from the gurus in this forum. Been a lurker here for the past month or two, and just getting into watches, as prior to this I'm a one-watch man - my trusty Oris 7461 is on my wrist nearly every day for close to 2 decades, and probably it's about time to give this gold-plated dude a bit of rest. My main focus of collection is in fountain pens, and I use this same handle at The Fountain Pen Network.

    I'm just curious to the authenticity of this watch:

    *Item 332035911887 on eBay*

    Is this a "mod" watch (franken/ fake if you prefer it that way)?

    The seller has a solid eBay rating of 100%, although apparently he's quite known for offering his own personal takes on what Russian watches should be

    Thanks in advance.


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    A seller may have a 100% rating even though some of his items are questionable, because he is always willing to do what's necessary to make the buyer as happy as possible.

    In the case of the watch you reference, if you were to buy it the best thing he could do for you is to cheerfully give you a refund when you return it. It is totally made up and the item with its advertisement is designed to deceive. You were smart to ask.

    Keep looking and welcome to the forum.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by shahrincamille View Post
    I would like to post pictures or a hyperlink to my query above, but apparently as a new member I'm not allowed to do so even though I did try to upload the pictures directly.

    So hopefully this post (and other assorted worthless junk posts I'm going to post up these next few days) would bring up my post count to a sufficient level for me to post up genuine queries and contributions, WITH pictures and links, to this forum.

    I'm not here to post up sales. Even at the FPN I hardly sold anything even though I currently own nearly 400 fountain pens

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    Posting link and pictures on behalf of new member shahrincamille post and enquiry. Welcome to the F10 forum

    Not my area of knowledge, but judging from the photos I would say it is a reproduction dial with mismatched hands for sure.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/332035911887

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    A seller may have a 100% rating even though some of his items are questionable, because he is always willing to do what's necessary to make the buyer as happy as possible.

    In the case of the watch you reference, if you were to buy it the best thing he could do for you is to cheerfully give you a refund when you return it. It is totally made up and the item with its advertisement is designed to deceive. You were smart to ask.

    Keep looking and welcome to the forum.
    Thanks a million schnurrp

    I had my doubts too. I believe a genuine NOS Soviet watch would be hard to come by 2.5 decades on, and if there are some left I would expect the opening price of a NOS premium Soviet watch brand with papers to be multiples of what was asked by the seller. A search on Google image does not show the watch pictures to come from anywhere else except from the seller himself.


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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mariomart View Post
    Posting link and pictures on behalf of new member shahrincamille post and enquiry. Welcome to the F10 forum

    Not my area of knowledge, but judging from the photos I would say it is a reproduction dial with mismatched hands for sure.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/332035911887

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    Thank you mariomart

    I suppose the 2612 movement is the real thing?


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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    I have that model, I guess it's right
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by junkman View Post
    I have that model, I guess it's right
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    Interesting

    But the hands sure are not the same. Some whose hands got changed - yours, or the seller's?



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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    It's mine, I send you this photo so you can see how it looks on your wrist. If you have a big doll that is a bit bad.

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    By the moment (but ask before those who have the knowledge)

    https://www.ebay.es/itm/1950s-SOVIET...YAAOSwbopZTOMO
    https://www.ebay.es/itm/1961-1962-VE...4AAOSw42JZEGaH
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Now I noticed another iteration of the watch oneBay.

    * Item 162737340291 *

    Different hour and minute hands. Different case back

    eBay stuff never cease to amaze me



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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by shahrincamille View Post
    Interesting

    But the hands sure are not the same. Some whose hands got changed - yours, or the seller's?

    Shahrin
    Sellers!

    Notice diamond First Moscow logo missing on subject watch. That's a much newer movement.

    Mine:


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