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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by francisotooleart View Post
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    This is a recent purchase of mine from the website catawiki a Striela 1960 to 69 Chronograph wristwatch ,The seller had top marks and tells me everything about my purchase is fine etc , But for a watch from the 1960s something seems wrong ,i am verynew to watch collecting and am right now worried and a bit lost , Advice highly welcome ,I can take more detail images for anyone ,Theseare from purchase website
    Fake dial, wrong central seconds hand, wrong case, chronograph bridge and hammer are from different movement, coupling clutch spring is replaced with a simple steel wire....
    Maybe something else, but that's enough :)

    Regards, Miro.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Both from the '80s and generally look fine. Slava is missing its day wheel or there is a problem with it. The Slava automatic movement is not one of the better ones, vintage examples often not working. There's something about buying an automatic watch with a heavily worn crown that is unsettling, when you think about it.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Franiscotooleart - Looks to me as if the chronograph bridge is a replacement. The metal is a slightly different colour, the shape is different, and all I have seen are stamped with "19 jewels" in Cyrillic or English. Perhaps it's a variation I haven't come across - hopefully someone can confirm!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Both from the '80s and generally look fine. Slava is missing its day wheel or there is a problem with it. The Slava automatic movement is not one of the better ones, vintage examples often not working. There's something about buying an automatic watch with a heavily worn crown that is unsettling, when you think about it.
    Thank you for your help and advice.

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    Any help about this one will be appreciated:






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    Step by step i will be there.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Sansoni7 View Post
    Thank you for your help and advice.

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    Any help about this one will be appreciated:












    That one looks good. From '83 catalog:


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    There's also a version with a simple round case: https://get.google.com/albumarchive/...l2iWQsozCJiOpb
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Thanks again schnurrp.


    Step by step i will be there.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi, you can help me with these two, I have searched catalogs and I have not found anything.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Comrades, some time ago this watch (see the images below) was given to me as a present by someone who knew I was very much into Russian watches (especially Vostok Komandirskies and Amphibians). I was of course extremely delighted, not just because of the gesture but because it was a Vostok Komandirske Blue Submarine Automatic!

    If I had only seen the dial side I would most definitely had assumed a 2414 movement, but as it turs out it actually has a 2416B movement. Well, I haven’t actually opened it up it yet, but what other (somewhat contemporary) Vostok movement is an automatic with a date complication?!

    As I understood it, it was originally bought in a shop in Stockholm, Sweden (where I live), sometime during the first half of the 90-ties, and has spent most of the last 25 years or so hidden in a drawer, probably because the buckle had broken and no one bothered to change or repair it (original Vostok blue rubber strap). The crystal was rather faded but two minutes of polishing with some toothpaste and a bit of Polywatch took care of it.

    Now for the big question; I’ve been scanning the Internet (well mostly eBay) for the last several weeks looking for a similar watch but haven’t found any. I’m pretty certain it’s legit as the case back reads "automatic" (according to Google translate "WATERPROOFING AUTOMOTIVE") but of course I can’t be 100 % sure about that. Anyway, it would seem to me that this automatic version could be pretty rare. So what do you think, legit (and rare?) or a Franken? Thanks!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    24 Hours - nice watch and I believe, completely authentic. Vostok have made a number of automatic Komandirskies over the years (and still do). Your example with the dolphin caseback corresponds to the 1990s, and the lack of "made in Russia" suggests to me a date circa 1992-1995. Not exceptionally rare, but not one of the most common models either.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    The automatic Komandirskie case is often referred to as the Generalskie case. Great gift

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