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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhdzsz View Post
    I am quite new to watch collection and I can across this in a vintage shop in Bishkek, it says USSR in Latin so I am a bit worried it could be a Frankenstein :$ thoughts?
    I assume it has a sub-second dial, comrade, and if it does it's a 17 jewel 2605 Vostok from the mid to late '70s like the one pictured below from the '77 catalog. However it appears to have an incorrect set of hands.

    If it doesn't have a sub-second dial then it's missing its second hand and I've never seen that dial in that configuaration.

    I wouldn't be interested unless it was keeping good time and quite cheap: < $20.

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    Thank you very much for the info! It does have a sub second dial, which is what I found interesting about it :) I bought it for 25 USD approx and thankfully it is keeping time quite well. Hopefully for my next purchase I will be able to bargain for under 20 :p

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    As far as wear is concerned, the forces in a mechanical watch are so small (even a slight contact of the second hand with another hand or the dial face is enough to stop everything) that the lack of proper lubrication and/or presence of dust or dirt brings the gear train to a stop long before the friction between the metal gear shafts and the bearings have a chance to do any harm.
    Yes, the forces involved are small, but so are the tolerances. It's all relative. Running a watch with no oil will do as much damage, relatively speaking, as running a large machine with no oil. Sure, you may wear only one micrometer off of a pivot before it stops, but that's a lot of damage on such a tiny machine. A watch that has been sitting for 25 years should definitely be serviced before being run extensively (it's okay to run it for a short time to measure its performance).
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePossumKing View Post
    I know it's little expensive, but is it real??

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/V-RARE-Coll...19.m1438.l2649
    Looks great to me, other than the price. Mine has different hands, but others have the same as this (see mroatman's below). FYI, it's a small watch at 33mm.

    There is a nicer on one Meshok, for a fraction of the cost: Meshok Tochmeh.
    I haven't seen those hands before, but I have no reason to doubt that they are genuine. The seller is offering worldwide delivery, so possibly a Russian-speaking comrade here could help you out. I've had a lot of luck by asking in a separate post on the forum, or through a few other contacts (who charge a small commission). PM me if you'd like an introduction. Good luck!


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    Mroatman's is identical (I'm pretty sure his crown is a replacement):

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi I purchased this watch as a genuine strela 3017 from the early 1960s ,The seller had a high ranking on catawiki, I would really appreciate you guys opinions on this watch ,i am very new to collecting timepieces ,all the best Name:  ftftftftftftf.jpg
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by francisotooleart View Post
    Hi I purchased this watch as a genuine strela 3017 from the early 1960s ,The seller had a high ranking on catawiki, I would really appreciate you guys opinions on this watch ,i am very new to collecting timepieces ,all the best Name:  ftftftftftftf.jpg
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    As I wrote to your first post:

    fake dial, wrong central seconds hand, wrong case, chronograph bridge and hammer are from different movement, coupling clutch spring is replaced with a simple steel wire....
    Maybe something else, but that's enough :)

    Regards, Miro.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePossumKing View Post
    I know it's little expensive, but is it real??
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/V-RARE-Coll...19.m1438.l2649
    Quote Originally Posted by bpmurray View Post
    Looks great to me, other than the price. Mine has different hands, but others have the same as this (see mroatman's below).
    To be fair, the Gostrest on eBay has a different number font and must be a bit more rare, since the three other cited examples on this page all share the same style numbers. Still, I don't think this justifies the $650 asking price.

    And yes, I agree that my crown is replaced. Might have to do something about that...

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Hi.
    Any informations about this watch, will be appriceated.
    Brand, year, fake....?
    Thanks.



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    Step by step i will be there.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Is this Gagarin Type 2 17J legit?

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/sht...n-4571275.html

    I've never seen he 17J models with the three letter year engraving on it before, only the 15Js. This one has 1-57.

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