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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Not sure why some of the pictures aren't showing up. But here is the movement.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken?

    Quote Originally Posted by VWatchie View Post
    It's pretty obvious, I guess, that this watch wasn't manufactured between 1970 and 1979, right? But, is it legit? Judging by the pictures, the condition seems to be excellent and if there's nothing fishy about it I might want to buy it. eBay listing here. (Can't insert images as it hangs my browser...?)
    I'm pretty sure that it is in the wrong case

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    That dial looks fishy to me. It looks like it has been freshly printed on paper and then glued onto the old dial. There are a few eBay sellers that are notorious for doing that
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    VWatchie - these paratrooper komandirskies with the same case and bezel do exist, but whether they are correct is difficult to say with certainty. One feature they all seem to share as a group is the Amphibian meatball second hand - other dial/bezel combinations seen to all have the simple Komandirskie second hand. So perhaps this is evidence to suggest this was a legitimate lot put out by the factory - but equally it could just prove they were all frankened by the same guy at the same time. Personally I'd go with the probability it is genuine but unless the model appears in a catalogue, comes with a watertight passport, or some credible history, you may never be 100% certain.

    Here is a link to a video of a very similar version, except it is "made in USSR" not the 3aka3 version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEsQmEtrGgM
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Is this legit? Also, does anyone know what the double headed eagle is? I know it's the Russian imperial eagle, but doesn't fit the pictures I find online exactly. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-POB...gAAOSwySVaCJ57

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    and this watch: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-soviet...sAAOSwa~BYbVIX legit. Sorry for spam but somehow I can't post more than one link in one comment.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jfbl View Post
    Is this legit? Also, does anyone know what the double headed eagle is? I know it's the Russian imperial eagle, but doesn't fit the pictures I find online exactly. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-POB...gAAOSwySVaCJ57
    Probably (and that's about as close as one can come with these) an early '90s ZIM. Looks original but that's all I can say. The Russian eagle is found in many, many versions: https://www.google.com/search?q=Russ...w=1680&bih=956.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jfbl View Post
    and this watch: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-soviet...sAAOSwa~BYbVIX legit. Sorry for spam but somehow I can't post more than one link in one comment.
    Found in a 1970 catalog with ZIM's version of the 41-M movement which is listed as a 2608. That one has a decent case. I believe those ZIMs had the worst chrome plating of all the soviet watches.

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