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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Now you have me curious about the vertical shoulders. What do you think of this? Name:  crystal.jpg
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

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    Now you have me curious about the vertical shoulders. What do you think of this? Name:  crystal.jpg
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    That looks like a modern crystal to me. There's no doubt when you see the real thing. Here's a real old one from my collection:

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    And here's a Vostok similar to yours that may be in my collection later:

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Ok. Thanks for the info!

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    I just purchased this Vostok 119 from Ebay this morning as a spare parts watch (dial, crown, movement, crystal) but I also noticed something else.

    The case appears to be polished stainless steel. From what I've seen from all the other 119's I own is that they all have a deeply brushed sunburst effect on the upper surface. Polished tonneau cases didn't occur until the release of the 090 modern cases with 22mm lug width. This case has an 18mm lug width.

    There is always the possibility that someone has taken a normal 119 and simply polished the hell out of it to remove the rather deep brushing, or has there ever been a 119 released with a polished case that I'm just not aware of?

    Looking forward to some interesting responses.

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    This is what the normal Vostok 119 brushing looks like just for reference (image taken from an Ebay listing, so not mine).

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Opinions on this one?

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwalker View Post
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    Looks okay to me except for a couple of little details. The second hand is a little shorter than I'd like to see and the alarm hand is usually gold, sometimes with a red tip, but not all red like that.
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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    This is interesting...seems like gold over silver...



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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Looks okay to me except for a couple of little details. The second hand is a little shorter than I'd like to see and the alarm hand is usually gold, sometimes with a red tip, but not all red like that.
    Just an observation on another listing. It looks like there is an alarm hand that is gold but with red paint that has faded. So is the paint original or not? Any ideas?

    Edit: I looked closely again at the actual watch in question and noticed that the hand is gold but entirely covered in red paint in a very similar manner to the other example. I am unsure if this painting was done later or originally at the factory on both these watches.


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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwalker View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    Looks okay to me except for a couple of little details. The second hand is a little shorter than I'd like to see and the alarm hand is usually gold, sometimes with a red tip, but not all red like that.
    I agree -- replaced second hand and painted alarm hand. Price is also way out of line.


    Quote Originally Posted by cptwalker View Post
    Just an observation on another listing. It looks like there is an alarm hand that is gold but with red paint that has faded. So is the paint original or not? Any ideas?
    Looks like all four hands have been painted on this one (and not at the factory). Wrong crowns, too.

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    Re: Q&A Expertise thread: Is this watch legit or a franken? Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by sideways2 View Post
    This is interesting...seems like gold over silver...
    Yeah. Looks like an attempt to disguise a watch that had its gold case melted down for profit.

    Another issue is the hands, which are not what I typically associate with this dial.


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