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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    Also, Wood, I would like to revise my statement that Gulf War was US-Russia joint action. It obviously was not. Russia just ended up on the same side with the US coalition after attempting to broker their own UN peace solution which was turned down by Iraq. This was probably due to the weakened state of Russia at the time. Ten years earlier and Russia would have strongly supported their historical ally, Iraq.
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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    Quote Originally Posted by phd View Post
    //Vostok Dessert Shield// This, presumably, is a watch of sufficient size to keep custard off your shirt cuff?
    Took me a while!

    Darn! Went back and looked...only one "s" in "desert" on watch dial. The two "s" model..."mega-rare"!
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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaurien View Post
    @JRMTactical, I'm curious.
    You were in Iraq at the time, but you didn't receive one Desert Storm watch? I was thinking, following this knowledgeable WUS thread that every US soldier had received one!
    Also, an interview reported by ill-phil seems to say that 20000 watches were deployed in the USA.

    Accordingly, I was thinking that in the US you could find one of these watches for few bucks, due to their widespread - was I wrong?
    I never saw a Desert Shield or Desert Storm watch until I came to this forum! Not unusual dormant of us....most of those watches probably went to REMF's ( Rear Echelon Mother F******) who never left Riyadh or Dammam. The Russians, at the time, weren't quite as much 'on our side' as most were led to believe. i.e. there were some advisors on Mr Hussein's side at the time......but once they saw the inherent weaknesses in Soviet Armor, etc.....they were quickly gone.

    We had 500,000 'trrop' there at the time, so 20K watche wwouldn't have gone very far! Lol Anyway, I missed out!
    I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said "....I drank what?"

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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    Quote Originally Posted by JRMTactical View Post
    I never saw a Desert Shield or Desert Storm watch until I came to this forum! Not unusual dormant of us....most of those watches probably went to REMF's ( Rear Echelon Mother F******) who never left Riyadh or Dammam. The Russians, at the time, weren't quite as much 'on our side' as most were led to believe. i.e. there were some advisors on Mr Hussein's side at the time......but once they saw the inherent weaknesses in Soviet Armor, etc.....they were quickly gone.

    We had 500,000 'trrop' there at the time, so 20K watche wwouldn't have gone very far! Lol Anyway, I missed out!
    I have seen some in collections or for sale on line that look like they may have seen some use during the Gulf War but never one advertised as such. Anyone seen an authentic watch that was there?

    Thanks for your service, Bobby!

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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    Sorry! for my school English

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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

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    Sorry! for my school English

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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    Quote Originally Posted by schnurrp View Post
    I have seen some in collections or for sale on line that look like they may have seen some use during the Gulf War but never one advertised as such. Anyone seen an authentic watch that was there?

    Thanks for your service, Bobby!
    Well, I appreciate that Paul! I do it all over again, if I coud! I loved wearing the uniform, but most of all I love my country!
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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    A common myth (myth-understanding?!) is that these were made for soldiers. They were not. Absolutely, not. It was a business venture initially from Massachusetts. There was a limited run of about 200,000 watches. We had a lot more than 200k soldiers, so mathematically, it is unrealistic to say they were made as gifts for our boys and girls. Realistic or not, logical or not, the myth persists. The FACT is that these were made for sale. I have at least one of every type, with the exception of my grail, the decorative, luxury case. They were not marketed in the US very well, so they are not well known; certainly not widespread. So, no, you cannot get them for cheap in America. Not many people even know about them.
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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    I wonder where i was when they issued these? Oh yeah, probably living in a hole on the wrong side of the border. Right with you on the REMF thing. We didn't even get desert boots until we redeployed back home and they wanted us to look good for the parade! Of course if i would have been a water purification specialist or mail clerk...

    I never saw one of these watches in country and in fact, have never seen one other than on the bay in the US. I did see a NOS one in Ukraine a couple months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRMTactical View Post
    I never saw a Desert Shield or Desert Storm watch until I came to this forum! Not unusual dormant of us....most of those watches probably went to REMF's ( Rear Echelon Mother F******) who never left Riyadh or Dammam. The Russians, at the time, weren't quite as much 'on our side' as most were led to believe. i.e. there were some advisors on Mr Hussein's side at the time......but once they saw the inherent weaknesses in Soviet Armor, etc.....they were quickly gone.

    We had 500,000 'trrop' there at the time, so 20K watche wwouldn't have gone very far! Lol Anyway, I missed out!

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    Re: Vostok dessert shield question

    You can still buy as new the Junior version from ebay - Zentar and Meranom. On Meranom just type in "junior" in the search field.

    Russian Military Style VOSTOK Wrist Watch 1586 New | eBay

    Search - junior Meranom.com

    I also have a small collection of these watches - both amphibians 2414 and 2416, the 2416 Generalskie and a Komandirskie type 33x. All have the vostok logo. Below are a couple of juniors with (replacing #6) and without the logo. Also notice that one has the lollipop second hand.

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