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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    I will try.
    Photo enthusiast had two options back in films times.
    1. He took his exposed films to a lab, putting everything under control of operator (alas, very often non-photographer, uncaring and lazy guy), hoping that the lab would not spoil the film and prints... The result? 50/50 You could come out happy or unhappy.
    2. Darkroom. In pre-lab times this option was for everyone, in post-lab times it was mostly a choice for professionals. In darkroom (your own lab) photographer developed his films himself, making any corrections he wanted, and then he printed cards himself. All control over the process was in his hands, everything depended on his skills.

    Now you can rely on lab as well. And with modern technology 70% of shots are ready to print or publish with minimum corrections and editing. But that rest 30% of your shots are usually those, where you think you found something new, interesting and genius And you don't want anybody touch that file. So you need Photo Shop - the dark room of ourdays. Your own photolab, where you can do whatever you want with your photos, and again, the result depends only on your skills.

    I hope it makes some sense...
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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Quote Originally Posted by igorycha View Post
    I will try.
    Photo enthusiast had two options back in films times.
    1. He took his exposed films to a lab, putting everything under control of operator (alas, very often non-photographer, uncaring and lazy guy), hoping that the lab would not spoil the film and prints... The result? 50/50 You could come out happy or unhappy.
    2. Darkroom. In pre-lab times this option was for everyone, in post-lab times it was mostly a choice for professionals. In darkroom (your own lab) photographer developed his films himself, making any corrections he wanted, and then he printed cards himself. All control over the process was in his hands, everything depended on his skills.

    Now you can rely on lab as well. And with modern technology 70% of shots are ready to print or publish with minimum corrections and editing. But that rest 30% of your shots are usually those, where you think you found something new, interesting and genius And you don't want anybody touch that file. So you need Photo Shop - the dark room of ourdays. Your own photolab, where you can do whatever you want with your photos, and again, the result depends only on your skills.

    I hope it makes some sense...
    I think I understand what you mean. Thanks for the clarification.

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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

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    Thanks for the comments. In addition to the 50mm f/1.8 lens, I'm thinking about getting a macro lens for the watch shots. Any suggestions there?

    I'll also look for your future shots.
    So, anyone have any suggestions for a 50mm f/1.8 lens? And how much it should cost? :thanks

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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Quote Originally Posted by BenL View Post
    So, anyone have any suggestions for a 50mm f/1.8 lens? And how much it should cost? :thanks
    The Nikon 50mm 1.8 is about $150 and is amazing

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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Remember that the D90 is a DX camera, which means you have a 1.5x focal length factor, so a lens which is in fact a 50mm (on a full frame or FX camera (like any film slr or the bigger D3/D700), will give you the same field of view as a 75mm lens, when mounted on the D90.
    So often when someone says get a '50mm' lens ( to get the all-round, 'standard' lens perspective), what you actually need for a DX camera is a 35mm lens - which when mounted on the D90 actually becomes a 35 x 1.5 = 52.5mm lens.
    Nikon make one specifically for this use, the quite new 35 1.8 Rockwell's review
    The main advantage of this is that it's faster, smaller, lighter than the zoom you have, and also forces you to move to frame your shot. That said, you could just set your zoom to 35mm length and go outdoors in sunshine and you'd get the same results

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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    The Nikon 50mm 1.8 is about $150 and is amazing

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    Gotcha, si, thanks.

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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceathreamhnan View Post
    Remember that the D90 is a DX camera, which means you have a 1.5x focal length factor, so a lens which is in fact a 50mm (on a full frame or FX camera (like any film slr or the bigger D3/D700), will give you the same field of view as a 75mm lens, when mounted on the D90.
    So often when someone says get a '50mm' lens ( to get the all-round, 'standard' lens perspective), what you actually need for a DX camera is a 35mm lens - which when mounted on the D90 actually becomes a 35 x 1.5 = 52.5mm lens.
    Nikon make one specifically for this use, the quite new 35 1.8 Rockwell's review
    The main advantage of this is that it's faster, smaller, lighter than the zoom you have, and also forces you to move to frame your shot. That said, you could just set your zoom to 35mm length and go outdoors in sunshine and you'd get the same results
    Thanks for the comments.

    The last part is a good question - why wouldn't anyone just do it that way? Besides the smaller/lighter factor, why would anyone go out and purchase a separate 35mm lens?

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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Quote Originally Posted by BenL View Post
    Thanks for the comments.

    The last part is a good question - why wouldn't anyone just do it that way? Besides the smaller/lighter factor, why would anyone go out and purchase a separate 35mm lens?

    .....because a large part of buying these prime-lenses like the 50mm f1.8 is the much higher light gathering power of the lower f number....ie low light photography.....in addition to 'learning how to frame' your pictures with a non-zoom lense. Locking your zoom at the right focal length to match the prime lense will give you a similar framing situation but the zoom kit lenses stop out at much higher f-numbers....as the original commenter said....'sunny day'.

    The 35mm f1.8 ''G' lense that has been mentioned is a good option also, but it is iirc 2.5x the price of Nikon nifty-50 (50mm f1.8 'D').....the nifty-50 is a 'D' lense, but that imo is part of the reason in owning a d90 in the first place in that it can drive D and G lenses where the d5000/3000 d60/40 can only use D lense in manual & need G lenses for full auto-focus/aper etc. good luck.
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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy S. View Post
    .....because a large part of buying these prime-lenses like the 50mm f1.8 is the much higher light gathering power of the lower f number....ie low light photography.....in addition to 'learning how to frame' your pictures with a non-zoom lense. Locking your zoom at the right focal length to match the prime lense will give you a similar framing situation but the zoom kit lenses stop out at much higher f-numbers....as the original commenter said....'sunny day'.

    The 35mm f1.8 ''G' lense that has been mentioned is a good option also, but it is iirc 2.5x the price of Nikon nifty-50 (50mm f1.8 'D').....the nifty-50 is a 'D' lense, but that imo is part of the reason in owning a d90 in the first place in that it can drive D and G lenses where the d5000/3000 d60/40 can only use D lense in manual & need G lenses for full auto-focus/aper etc. good luck.
    Ah, thanks - just the kind of information I needed. I can't seem to remember the difference between "D" and "G" lenses, though...

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    Re: Brand new Nikon D90

    Quote Originally Posted by BenL View Post
    Ah, thanks - just the kind of information I needed. I can't seem to remember the difference between "D" and "G" lenses, though...
    ....they are the same mount obviously, but essentially the D's have no internal motors or electronics.....they require an external drive (a tiny driveshaft in the camera body of the mounting ring) to control the mechanics of lense. The D90 & above has this ability whereas the lower line nikons don't. G lenses or 'CPU lenses' have internal motor drives
    & generally have 'antivibration-antishake' vibration reduction systems also that help reduce image shake. G lense are newer than D....but the G will have several 'cpu contacts' on it's bottom ring & usually 1 or 2 electronic switches on the body. If you 90 came with the 18-105 zoom, that's a G lense. The d90 can run D and G lenses essentially identically, whereas the models below the d90 can only run D lense manually.

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