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    Question 1 jewel Wilson watch

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    Are there any examples of watches with pin lever movements and stainless(or solid gold :O ) cases?
    I have a curios one in the collection that i`m convinced is stainless steel...............a one jewel Wilson....
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    the movement `s ok,shock protected too.
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    more perspectives of case...........
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    around the lug area seems to be textured like the whole case was cast and that area was part of the unfinished mould,but tbh i don`t know.
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    Re: MANSON WATCH movement questions!

    I know that this is not the same movement but the general movement structure and finissage reminds me of this one:

    https://17jewels.info/en/movements-e...6-crc-860.html

    Unfortunately, even Christoph Lorenz can't place the maker. Mikrolisk has only one entry for CRC: Montres Esperanto in Morteau, France. So you may well have a french movement.

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    Re: MANSON WATCH movement questions!

    Actually, I think it may be a Parrenin 65, similar to this 17j version of mine.

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    Re: MANSON WATCH movement questions!

    I agree. It's a Parrenin ebauche finished and cased-up in Hong Kong. It could be considered a fairly typical Hong Kong watch were it not for the stainless steel case. I'd be interested to see the case back to compare with PRC-made cases.

    Sorry, we seem to have strayed off-topic. But one thing that this proves is that pin-lever cheapies can be very interesting for collectors of vintage watches.
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    Re: MANSON WATCH movement questions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollonaught View Post
    I have a curios one in the collection that i`m convinced is stainless steel...............a one jewel Wilson....
    That Wilson dial has me intrigued. I'm used to seeing the "Star Jewels" marking on some Enicar watches, (although I don't know if it was limited to that maker). Seeing it on this Wilson watch is a bit surprising. For one thing, assuming the movement is original to the watch there's only one "jewel", not "jewels".

    Thanks.
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    Re: MANSON WATCH movement questions!

    Thanks for the interest guys,I will add more photos`s to the original post as soon as possible.
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    Re: MANSON WATCH movement questions!

    Update,
    Interesting day i`ve had with this watch.I should have studied the case more closely with a loupe .I found the tiniest amount of base metal inside the spring bar hole and it`s brass,so it is chrome plated after all.I also found under the balance 2461D and HP in a shield,so yep it`s a Parrenin Ebauche.And while i was with loupe i also regulated the watch because it was gaining a bit.I`ve had the watch for close to 2 years now and the hairspring was a mess when i got it and it took a few goes to get it sorted but didn`t get around to regulating it until today.I have a strap for it but will fit that later today.Thanks again.
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    Re: 1 jewel Wilson watch

    The "stainless steel back" marking on the case back should have made the fact of the case not being all steel obvious from the start.
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    Re: 1 jewel Wilson watch

    Thanks for sharing the extra photos. Yes that is definitely a chrome-plated brass case, and fairly typical of Hong Kong watches of the 1970s into the 1980s. It certainly looks like a cast case that has been polished on the exposed surfaces only.

    Cool to see a French pin-lever being assembled in Hong Kong, alongside the more common Swiss, Japanese, USSR, DDR and eventually PRC movements.

    https://17jewels.info/movements-en/m...nin-1641d.html

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    Hold the press! It turns out that Roland Ranfft has an exact match!


    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...Parrenin_2640D
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    Re: 1 jewel Wilson watch

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollonaught View Post
    ... i`m convinced is stainless steel
    If "Stainless Steel Back" is written on the back, you can be sure that only the back is made of stainless steel. Unfortunately the movement can't be identified from your photo, but for sure it is one of this line:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Parrenin 2641D

    Regards, Roland Ranfft
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