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    Re: 1900 English PW - F.J. Spiller- Taunton - Sterling case by JR

    The learning continues. Thanks folks!!
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: 1900 English PW - F.J. Spiller- Taunton - Sterling case by JR

    Another thing to consider. English watchmaking changed to factory-made watches from mid 1870s. Large factories included Rotherhams and Ehrhardt amongst others. I think it is reasonable to assume some of the differences from 'traditional' pre 1870 English manufacture arose due the the differing needs of factory production and for interchangeability. I do think, however, these 1900 era watches were experiencing the last gasps...

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    Re: 1900 English PW - F.J. Spiller- Taunton - Sterling case by JR

    Hi Eeeb,

    just looked back at your photos and you have an English Ratchet style escape wheel and a 'true' English lever.

    K.

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    Re: 1900 English PW - F.J. Spiller- Taunton - Sterling case by JR

    Some inspiration Eeeb...







    Roller jewel replaced.







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    A little movie

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    I have just opened a ca 1900 steward dawson, and it is 100% identical to my Ehrhardt (parts and plates swap over), however it has the English style ratchet and lever rather than the club ratchet and simplified lever of this one. The ebauch is also marked Ehrhardt in the same way, so I think we are seeing clear progression in manufacture here. I have no doubt about these being 100% products of the English watch making industry.
    Last edited by trim; September 13th, 2010 at 23:56.

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    Re: 1900 English PW - F.J. Spiller- Taunton - Sterling case by JR

    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    I have just opened a ca 1900 steward dawson, and it is 100% identical to my Ehrhardt (parts and plates swap over), however it has the English style ratchet and lever rather than the club ratchet and simplified lever of this one. The ebauch is also marked Ehrhardt in the same way, so I think we are seeing clear progression in manufacture here. I have no doubt about these being 100% products of the English watch making industry.
    Great detective work Trim.

    I concede that you are probably correct and these machine made
    watches are of English manufacture.

    This period of English watchmaking is chaotic and there are many grey areas where it is difficult to find accurate information.
    Traditional English watchmaking was in trouble and companies were
    scrambling into mass production techniques in order to survive and
    compete with U.S and Swiss imports.

    Technology, technique and machinery were imported and traditional
    English watchmaking all but died.

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    Re: 1900 English PW - F.J. Spiller- Taunton - Sterling case by JR

    I found this thread and just loved the knowledge exchange so much I had to bump it! LOL
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: 1900 English PW - F.J. Spiller- Taunton - Sterling case by JR

    I enjoyed reading that again.
    Definately not English watchmakings finest hour.

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