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    1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    Hello,

    Got yesterday this watch. Still didn't had time to clean it.
    Hallmarks identifies it as Swiss made, assayer mark seams to be from Geneve, imported to England at 1915.
    Enamel dial, blued hands, silver case with double back doors.
    Not sure if chronograph second hand is original.
    Size is 35 mm without the crown, dial is 30mm wide, caliber seems to be 13 lignes

    Any guesses on maker? Would appreciate any feedback.


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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    Post moved since what you got isn't a clock.
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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    All I can add is importer mark is LW, but didn't find him/her
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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    Woow, it's a nice early piece. I see something under the balance wheel kind of ' 090 '? Not sure if Lugrin had wrist chronos at that time. Moeris,Martel and Breitling comes first in my mind for that era chronograph manufacturers. Dial side of the movement might have some marks. I wanted to say that it might be well re-cased into a wrist watch case, but it looks like a perfect fit - sounds like 13 lignes movement too early for a wristwatch for that time. Just thinking loud...

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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emre View Post
    Woow, it's a nice early piece. I see something under the balance wheel kind of ' 090 '? Not sure if Lugrin had wrist chronos at that time. Moeris,Martel and Breitling comes first in my mind for that era chronograph manufacturers. Dial side of the movement might have some marks. I wanted to say that it might be well re-cased into a wrist watch case, but it looks like a perfect fit - sounds like 13 lignes movement too early for a wristwatch for that time. Just thinking loud...
    No, I think ALWAYS a wristwatch
    1915 is not so impossible
    In Europe we have wristwatch from 1904, and surely by 1914/15 chronograph wristwatch.
    I have a 1913 Gallet on display at the Museum. I will post a picture.

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    PS - This may be a Gallet??
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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    The pin set is unusual (though it makes sense given that they're using the crown for the chronograph pusher). The finish on the chronograph parts is extremely well done, while the base movement (although decent) is pretty stock. That suggests to me that this was done as a sort of "customization" by a dedicated chronograph specialist on top of a generic ebauche. Probably original to the case, since there's only one set of case screw marks, and it would take a fair amount of work to refit a generic case to fit something like this.
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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    It's very interesting to me that it is an authentic wristwatch chronograph that looks to be pin set(?). I would fight you for it if given the chance!

    Edit: Or is the pin/pusher used for some other purpose?
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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    Great Watch,

    Not sure about the movement. The Sponsors mark L.W. is probably Louis Weill



    1908..1918
    (registered Jan 1907)

    Imported watch case

    Holborn Circus, London




    London Makers Marks - L

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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    Just noticed that my thread was just moved, I've thought it was deleted.
    Thanks all of you for the feedbacks.

    It seems that there is really 090 or 060 stamp beneath balance. Don't know if this adds any info.

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    Here is Gallet Multichron. It doesn't has the pin set and dial look a little different.
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    Unfortunately, I'm unable to find photos of movements of early wrist chronographs to make comparison..
    Here is also Longines from 1913 that looks a little bit more similar.
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    Re: 1914 small wrist single pusher chronograph, which maker?

    I can make a hypothesis? Jules Frédéric Alfred Lugrin 13 ligne
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