1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

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    1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    Hello,

    This is my first post on watchuseek :) so thanks for looking.

    I have recently bought an old watch, but I can't find much information about it. I love old watches but REALLY love old cars, which is the main reason I bought this Bugatti dial watch. I was told that it dates from around 1930.

    Maybe someone here could provide some more information about this watch?
    I can't find anything about the brand 'Super Brama'.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    Hi and welcome.

    Its probably a Landeron 48 or similar:

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...wk&Landeron_48

    As these were produced over a long time, precise dating is difficult - but it just looks more 1950 ish to me - there's little wear on the case and the style of the dial is fairly clean. But await other opinions!

    Sorry, no idea about Super Brama.
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    Please don't PM me to ask for a valuation - I won't attempt one.

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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    I would also say that it is more likely to be post WWII. Apart from the style, "Super Brama" isn't exactly a well known brand (or ever was). It seems to be a sort of cooperation-between-companies watch, as the 1990's Girard-Perregaux "pour Ferrari" (and the more recent Panerai-Ferrari watches - off topic: latest news is that the cooperation won't be extended and that Ferrari is seeking a new watch company) were. I can't imagine that Bugatti in its prime would cooperate with someone like Super Brama. After the war, their star declined rapidly and they finally folded (for the first time) in 1963. Still, late forties is quite possible.

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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    1950s I would say,rather then 1930s.
    “Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings - always darker, emptier and simpler.”

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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    I would also say that it is more likely to be post WWII. Apart from the style, "Super Brama" isn't exactly a well known brand (or ever was). It seems to be a sort of cooperation-between-companies watch, as the 1990's Girard-Perregaux "pour Ferrari" (and the more recent Panerai-Ferrari watches - off topic: latest news is that the cooperation won't be extended and that Ferrari is seeking a new watch company) were. I can't imagine that Bugatti in its prime would cooperate with someone like Super Brama. After the war, their star declined rapidly and they finally folded (for the first time) in 1963. Still, late forties is quite possible.

    Hartmut Richter
    Thanks a lot for the info :) makes sense.

    So it's probablly late 1940's or 1950's. It's not a great brand, and the movement is quite common. It's very rare tho (can't find anything about it) and it's still a Bugatti. Does this add to the collector value? I won't ask for numbers but would like to know if it's worth selling or if I should keep it. I paid around $700 for it.

    I was thinking a vintage Bugatti car collector would go wild for this if it was 1930's.. 1950's, not so sure..

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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    The movement if it is a Landeron 48 is, in fact an early one. Note the lack of shock protection. The colour is pre fifties as well. Collectability? That logo would make it worth more than the usual Chronograph in an automobilia auction and a Bugattiste would very probably pay a good sum for it.

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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    Quote Originally Posted by tomshep View Post
    a Bugattiste would very probably pay a good sum for it.
    ....and Bugattistes are generally not a down-at-the-heels bunch!

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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    Quote Originally Posted by LouS View Post
    ....and Bugattistes are generally not a down-at-the-heels bunch!
    That applys to the wannabes too. A watch with the Bugatti name on it is as close as they will ever come to a real Bugatti.

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    Re: 1930s Bugatti super brama chronograph

    Quote Originally Posted by tomshep View Post
    The movement if it is a Landeron 48 is, in fact an early one. Note the lack of shock protection. The colour is pre fifties as well. Collectability? That logo would make it worth more than the usual Chronograph in an automobilia auction and a Bugattiste would very probably pay a good sum for it.
    Thanks a bunch, good info
    Is there a way to verify the age of the watch / movement?
    There seems to be a serial number on the back, but there's nothing on the movement.

    The watch is running perfectly, I have tried it and it keeps perfect time over 36 hours, it's only one minute off!

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