1940's and 1950-50's Ladies Wittnauer Help Needed

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    1940's and 1950-50's Ladies Wittnauer Help Needed

    These two watches belonged to my Grandmother who has since passed away. I am trying to find out possible production date or more information for my Mother. Any WIS knowledge from here would be a BIG help. Sorry the pictures are not great. Any information about these two watches and their history is a great help.

    Watch (1) 1940's ??? It has a KO looking marking with VII VIII on the case size. 18 K and Platinum. Number 41578. 17 Jewel MIDO UNITED stamped on the movement. Not working





    Watch (2)
    Wittenauer (Possible 1950's - 1960's) - amazing this handwind still keeps perfect time after all of these years. Description on case 263419 with the numbers 407 under it. 14K / 17 jewel Wittenauer movement. Swiss at the bottom.


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    Re: 1940's and 1950-50's Ladies Wittnauer Help Needed

    Hi jlow28,

    we don't do evaluations here, cf. stickies on top. But you need not worry
    about the value: For ladies watches usually the material value applies - if
    running one buck more, if not one buck less.

    Better keep them for sentimental reasons, and if you want to have the
    Mido running again, there is no problem: The movement is an FHF 59
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&&2uswk&FHF_59
    something like the Volkswagen (or Ford T) among the midget movements.
    And as many watches are butchered for their scrap value, it is easy to find
    a running movement, either as replacement or as donor for all eventually
    needed parts.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    brutal

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Ranfft View Post
    For ladies watches usually the material value applies - if running one buck more, if not one buck less.
    There's a reason why Angie doesn't have you in the diplomatic corp!

    Did you enjoy the "Madonna" implosion? e

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    Re: brutal

    Sorry didn't read about evaluations here, just wanted some information about the watches. Thanks .... Post edited.
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    that's probably a . . . .

    W Tx thing. No need to look at the road signs when you can already see the next town you are going to - 20 some miles up the road. e
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    Re: brutal

    Hi jlow28,

    Quote Originally Posted by jlow28 View Post
    just wanted some information about the watches. Thanks .... Post edited.
    Case numbers don't help for dating, with just few exceptions. Please read here:
    http://www.ranfft.de/uhr/info-e.html#D1

    So the style of dial and case, and the movement design help much more.
    After these characteristics the Benus was very likely made in the late
    fourties.

    Mido is one of the mentioned exceptions. Watches after 1938 are well
    recorded, and before this year, some samples with known age help further.
    The number 41578 would date your Mido into the first production year,
    1925 though. But unfortunately watches exported to the U.S.A. were often
    cased there to save duties, and therefore the number has probably nothing
    to do with Mido. Moreover I'm not sure whether the FHF 59 movement was
    already available in 1925. Anyway, regarding the style of the case, the
    watch could have been made in the late twenties. A more precise dating is
    by chance possible regarding the dial design.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: brutal

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Ranfft View Post
    Hi jlow28,


    Case numbers don't help for dating, with just few exceptions. Please read here:
    http://www.ranfft.de/uhr/info-e.html#D1

    So the style of dial and case, and the movement design help much more.
    After these characteristics the Benus was very likely made in the late
    fourties.

    Mido is one of the mentioned exceptions. Watches after 1938 are well
    recorded, and before this year, some samples with known age help further.
    The number 41578 would date your Mido into the first production year,
    1925 though. But unfortunately watches exported to the U.S.A. were often
    cased there to save duties, and therefore the number has probably nothing
    to do with Mido. Moreover I'm not sure whether the FHF 59 movement was
    already available in 1925. Anyway, regarding the style of the case, the
    watch could have been made in the late twenties. A more precise dating is
    by chance possible regarding the dial design.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

    Thanks for your help and I will add the vintage watch forum to my favorite list. I will try and do some research for historical purposes.
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    Re: that's probably a . . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by enough View Post
    W Tx thing. No need to look at the road signs when you can already see the next town you are going to - 20 some miles up the road. e
    And if you don't like the weather just wait a few hours for it to change. Great Texas wisdom can apply even here. Thanks again -e-
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