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    1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Hi,

    I'm following this section for years now but have never started a topic (shame on me) allthough I'm a member since the beginning of 2009.
    My name is Frans and I live in The Netherlands, my birthyear is in my nick and I'm a collector of old wristwatches. I think I have ca. 50 of them from different brands but Omega is my favorite brand.

    I have bought an Elka watch and think it's from the 40-ties or 50-ties.
    What I wanted to ask is of anybody can conferm this by looking at the movement. I have used the new search tool from Rafft and this is a great tool (thanks for it Hr. Rafft!) and I think that it's an AS movement but I'm not sure of it.

    I hope that somebody could help to identificate it.

    Here are the pics:




    About Elka, it wasn't a brand but a jeweler in Amsterdam who designed watches of all kind since the 19th century and used different cal. for them.

    Thanks for watching my 1st topic!

    Cheers, Frans

    ps. Sorry for my poor English but I've learned most by myself, mostly by posting and reading on the net.

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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Hi and welcome.

    It looks like an AS to me as well:

    bidfun-db AS_984: AS 984

    but we have members with more expertise than I have who will respond in a short time.

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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    There are several AS movements that looks very similar, but I'd say it's likely a 1124 series (11.5'''=25.6mm)

    bidfun-db AS_1124: AS 1124


    I would estimate it as being a late 1940s watch.


    I picked up this tidbit:
    "Royce" was a brand of the S. & E. Kocher Watch Co. originally based in Grenchen, Switzerland. "Eska" is another brand from this same company. This company assembled watches using movements from A. Schild, Ebauches S.A. and others. I believe the company disappeared in the 70s.
    TimeZone: Vintage Watches Archive => Royce watch co.
    Last edited by bjohnson; September 9th, 2010 at 21:21.

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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    It looks like the A.Schild 984 as Marrick has pointed out, but there is a small difference between the 984 and yours.
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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Quote Originally Posted by bjohnson View Post
    There are several AS movements that looks evry similar, but I'd say it's likely a 1124 series (11.5'''=25.6mm)

    bidfun-db AS_1124: AS 1124


    I would estimate it as being a late 1940s watch.


    I picked up this tidbit:
    "Royce" was a brand of the S. & E. Kocher Watch Co. originally based in Grenchen, Switzerland. "Eska" is another brand from this same company. This company assembled watches using movements from A. Schild, Ebauches S.A. and others. I believe the company disappeared in the 70s.
    TimeZone: Vintage Watches Archive => Royce watch co.
    His watch says ELKA on the dial not ESKA. I believe they are two different companies.

    Edit: The name ELKA stands for Eduard Louis Kiek Amsterdam, Dutch jeweler house from Amsterdam.
    Last edited by emmanuelgoldstein; September 9th, 2010 at 21:24.
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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Quote Originally Posted by emmanuelgoldstein View Post
    His says ELKA, is that a different way of spelling ESKA?
    Sorry, for some reason I misread the OP's watch as Eska.

    I don't have any info about Elka

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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Quote Originally Posted by bjohnson View Post
    Sorry, for some reason I misread the OP's watch as Eska.

    I don't have any info about Elka
    I just found some information and edited my post. I wasn't quick enough.
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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Welcome Frans~Fine looking Elka you have there! Thanks for sharing, cheers!

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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Thank you all for the warm welcome ;)

    I came at the same solution when I visited Ranfft advanced after I have put in all the details, the AS 984 series looks the best. I think I can assume that it is a A. Schild for sure, aint it?

    I'll bring it soon to my watchmaker for a service and a new plexy, if it's an A.S. he must find the cal. nr. behind the dial, ain't he?

    Thanks for all the help, it's much appriciated!

    Cheers, Frans

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    Re: 1st post at this section.....A. Schild?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frans53 View Post
    Thank you all for the warm welcome ;)

    I came at the same solution when I visited Ranfft advanced after I have put in all the details, the AS 984 series looks the best. I think I can assume that it is a A. Schild for sure, aint it?

    I'll bring it soon to my watchmaker for a service and a new plexy, if it's an A.S. he must find the cal. nr. behind the dial, ain't he?

    Thanks for all the help, it's much appriciated!

    Cheers, Frans
    It's most definitely an A. Schild movement. From the little bit of information I can gather ELKA used A. Schild movements primarily.
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