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    about Smiths watches and other British watch brand!

    Hello, just wondering if anybody here has experience with Smiths watches! Or do anybody know other british brands of watches?

    Hope you know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nome93 View Post
    Hello, just wondering if anybody here has experience with Smiths watches! Or do anybody know other british brands of watches?

    Hope you know!
    There's a guy named mach on http://www.thewatchforum.co.uk that has a lot of Services watches

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    Quote Originally Posted by nome93 View Post
    Hello, just wondering if anybody here has experience with Smiths watches! Or do anybody know other british brands of watches?

    Hope you know!
    What were you wanting to know?

    Smiths (clocks and automotive instruments manufacturer) started manufacturing their own watches in 1947 in a factory in England in 1947. They also entered a joint venture with Ingersoll (the British offshoot, not the US company) to start a watch factory in Wales, that started production in 1940. English Smiths are much higher quality, but Welsh Smiths are very durable. The original Welsh Smiths Empire pocket watch (also branded Ingersoll Triumph) was based on an old Ingersoll design from around 1897. After that came a series of wristwatches. Ingersoll pulled out of the venture in the 1960s and started sourcing their watches from Europe. Smiths gradually replaced their Welsh models with locally-case Seiko movements, and later fully-imported low-grade Swiss watches. The last Smiths watch made in 1980 was the original pocket watch.

    There are various other British brands, but nothing in the post-war period to match the English-made Smiths, which are particularly known for their use by the British army. Edmund Hillary wore a Smiths De Luxe to the top of Mt Everest.

    Here are my Smiths:

    Early 1950s Smiths Empire RY:


    Late 1950s Smiths TY:


    Some other British watches...

    Guildhall, made in 1950 by the Louis Newmark Company

    Swiss parts movement, other parts sourced from within Britain. This model would later be manufactured entirely in-house for Newmark and other brands.

    Westclox Waterproof, early 1960s

    Made in Scotland from 1960 until 1975. Case design USA mid 1950s, movement design USA 1936.

    Timex 1978

    Actually only the case is made in Scotland, the rest of the parts and final assembly was in Taiwan. Just prior to this one being made, these watches were made entirely in Scotland.

    So there's a start. Now you can plug some of those names into the forum search engine and find some older posts
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    Thank you!

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    The only Smiths I own, but it's not a timepiece.



    It's in my 1961 Morris Minor

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    Had this one on for a few minutes at a small GTG recently:





    Ridiculously efficient winding system, but some type of infringement lawsuit halted the production of these.

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    Thanks, my favorite model of the Smiths watches is De Luxe. But this model is very expensive. I hope I got it one day!

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    Does anyone know of a good source for vintage smith watches other than ebay? I am thinking more like a dealer in vintage watches.
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    I have one...





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    2008: Omega Speedmaster pro 3572.50
    2008: Denissov Barracuda 31681 L.E. (088/500)
    2008: British Army W10 Smiths Military (Age: 1940-1969)
    2008: Leandri Italia auto/date by Locman
    2009: Philip Stein Sports Chrono
    2010: Vintage IWC c.89
    2010: Rolex Sub 16610LV (M series)
    2010: Vintage JLC k.882

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