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    Another "Help me ID this watch" thread. An Illinois pocket watch

    And, my first post to make it worse.

    Hey guys. Love the site. I can tell I'll have to be careful... very easy to become obsessed with these things. I love old stuff - up to now, it's been cars and bikes. But watches... hmmm...

    I have a pocket watch that was my great grandfather's. He worked on the railroad in Pennsylvania (guessing here) circa 1915-1930. I have ZERO interest in parting with it, but would love to learn more about it.

    It is in excellent condition - every moving part seems to function like new - the winding mechanism, the hinge, and of course - it keeps perfect time.

    Any clue what model this is? What year it was made?

    Thanks!


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    Welcome, there are many many pleasant and highly informed people here who will be able to help. Mostly I just watch and learn.

    A photo of the movement will be needed to make any very definitive statements.

    It sounds like a hinged case, if you open up the back (there may be another dust cove under the outer cover) you should be able to get a picture of the movement.

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    Also, I would caution you not to run the watch until it has been properly cleaned and serviced. Most watches have been forgotten for years and the old oils dry up and become gummy or hard, creating friction and accelerated wear to very delicate parts when running.

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    Re: Another "Help me ID this watch" thread. An Illinois pocket watch

    Thanks. And, you're correct - I opened the back and found another cover.

    EDIT: Got it open...

    More Info: "Sangamo Special" engraved under the back outer cover

    Thanks again!

    Last edited by Manhattan; February 3rd, 2015 at 16:34.

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    A watch case opener is best, but really it's just a glorified knife. If you are uncomfortable with it, take it to a jeweler and they should be able to help.

    Any thin blade placed into the groove between the inner cover and case (normally at approx 1 o'clock from the back) and gently pried easily opens most cases with out damage. You could even tape the knife blade to help.

    But again go with your comfort level.

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    Re: Another "Help me ID this watch" thread. An Illinois pocket watch

    Okay, got it (thanks guy0783)...



    Well, that answers a few questions, e.g. made in 1925, and how many were made... sort of. What is the difference in run quantity (1,000) and total production (17,600)? And, for that period, is that a lot?


    • Movement Serial Number:4628749
    • Grade:Sangamo Special
    • Model:13
    • Estimated Production Year:1925
    • Run Quantity:1,000
    • Total Production:17,600
    • Size:17s
    • Jewels:23j
    • Jewel Material:Ruby
    • Movement Configuration:Openface
    • Movement Finish:Nickel
    • Movement Setting:Lever
    • Plate:Bridge Plate
    • Bridge Type:False Center
    • Adjusted:Yes
    • Adjusted # of Positions:6
    • Adjusted to Temperature:Yes
    • Railroad Grade:Yes

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    Ah, fantastic watch! You have found most of the information, but what that doesn't tell you is how desirable a 23j Sangamo Special is. Very desireable, and in an original case too, just adds to value. Since you have no interest in parting with it you should check auction sites for value in order to insure it appropriately if that is your wish. Congratulations on a wonderful timepiece.

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    A 'run' is how many they made in the batch that yours was made in. Total production can span several years (or decades even). Yours is neither crazy rare, or overproduced, but very sought after.

    It appears from the first photo the crown may not be correct, could we see another angle?

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    Re: Another "Help me ID this watch" thread. An Illinois pocket watch

    Thanks! Any auction sites you'd suggest? Can you tell this is all new to me
    So, by valuable... $500? $2,000? It is not even listed for ins. purposes, let alone appraised. Perhaps that's in order. Thanks again.

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    We can't do valuations, but search "23j Sangamo Special" in a couple of the most popular auction Web sites. Search sold auctions to get the best idea. Try to find examples with similarly marked cases also.

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