Have a couple of movements that I just haven't been able to place, so figured I'd ask the experts.
First up is this one from a Lucien Piccard.
Here are the photos:
The closest I could come up with is the AS 1798/AS 1892, but this one is marked as 17 jewels and those are listed as 25 jewels. Not sure if that makes a difference, but that's why I'm asking.
Second is from a Vulcain Grand Prix.
Here are the pics:
I think it looks like an ETA 2375 family, but not completely sure.
Can anyone chime in and let me know.
Also I can provide dial pics if you need them, but neither have dates and both have sweep second.
Thanks in advance.