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    Another pocket watch incoming

    Hello folks, Iíve just snagged another pocket watch, a Semloh Lever, a brand Iíve never seen before but itís a 17 jewel movement with a Reedís regulator in a silver case with screw back so I donít think it was a cheap watch when new. Iíve done a little research and it seems there might be a link between Semloh and CYMA but Iím not sure, I found this on Mikrolisk



    So it would seem that Semloh is a British brand?

    Hereís a sellers picture of the movement



    Anyway Iím eagerly anticipating itís arrival

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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    "Holmes" backward. There's also a registration for "Holmes, Wm. J.", same details.
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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    Quote Originally Posted by busmatt View Post
    Hello folks, I’ve just snagged another pocket watch, a Semloh Lever, a brand I’ve never seen before but it’s a 17 jewel movement with a Reed’s regulator in a silver case with screw back so I don’t think it was a cheap watch when new. I’ve done a little research and it seems there might be a link between Semloh and CYMA but I’m not sure, I found this on Mikrolisk



    So it would seem that Semloh is a British brand?

    Here’s a sellers picture of the movement



    Anyway I’m eagerly anticipating it’s arrival

    Matt


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    Definitely a Tavannes movement. Probably Tavannes Cal. 19''' -9.B
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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    So everything fit together. Your research : Tavannes / Cyma two companies who act as one work together with Mr. Holmes. The result a tavannes movement within probably an english case . WE'll see when the watch reach you.

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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    Itís arrived,



    Movement looks good



    Dennison case, lots of service marks, in my book this means a careful owner



    Dial is good, what looks like an original glass in the screw on front.

    All in I donít think Iíve been had

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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    I was about to say earlier, before the watch came in, that there is a Cyma movement inside, caliber 998, with a better regulation (I had seen a similar watch described with such a movement, also in a Dennison case). The engraved 'BEE998' makes me even more confident, although I don't know what the BEE stands for.

    Check the Ranfft database (look under Cyma, Tavannes has no caliber 998 listed there). He says something about a negative stem mechanism for the US market, whilst the cal. 991 has a normal stem mechanism...

    'Negative set' = 'American system' keyless work.

    As I really don't know much about this, the following has been copied and pasted from the Net:

    When a negative set mechanism is present, a setting lever screw, which normally releases the stem, is not fitted. To remove the movement from the case, there is no need to undo the setting lever screw as you would do for a positive set movement, just pull the crown out to the hand set position and the movement can be removed from the case by tilting it slightly.

    Now, one thing puzzles me: The Hallmark letters in the case and on the pendant, Birmingham B and A, look like 1926 and 1925. The watch, if the movement and caliber is correct, should be from the 1950s and the Birminghm letters 1951 and 1950 look similar. Difficult to judge from the images.
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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Reiver View Post
    The engraved 'BEE998' makes me....
    I guess it is "REF. 999", i.e. this calibre:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Cyma 999
    But attention, I took a replacement image of the Cyma 991 with set-lever screw, while the Cyma 999 has none due to its US style setting mechanism.

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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    It's too difficult for me to make out. I had enlarged and sharpened the image to the maximum, but can't be sure. Matt, can you check the letters and numbers for us pls? Perhaps also the Hallmarks (Birmingham date letters)?

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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Reiver View Post
    It's too difficult for me to make out. I had enlarged and sharpened the image to the maximum, but can't be sure. Matt, can you check the letters and numbers for us pls? Perhaps also the Hallmarks (Birmingham date letters)?


    Hallmarks work out to Birmingham 1926

    The number under the balance is
    REF999

    I hope this helps

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    Re: Another pocket watch incoming

    Quote Originally Posted by busmatt View Post
    Hallmarks work out to Birmingham 1926
    I do like the Ďitís not travelled too farí aspect of this

    Hereís a Coronet Clipper camera I borrowed off a Brum friend

    and a pic I took of the Queensway with it

    a mile from where the camera was made

    Great watch: enjoy!
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