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    Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    Good evening gang

    I was looking for a pie pan again but was again outbid during the last 20 seconds of the auction.It is the third time that it happens to me to be outbid on a pie pan constellaton auction everytime at 20 second before the auction ends!! I have also checked c cased constellation connies and other tonneau cased constellation but often in not so good shape one can wish, and spending insane money on an average condition was a niet for me. However after checking ebay listings thoroughly I found another seamaster chronometer, a black dialed version with the day date the ref 166032-168023. On mine the auction wasn't very high, so I put a very reasonable amount of money for the auction that I won (this one cost me the half of the price I paid for my other seamaster chronometer). It is a 36mm of diameter watch and in relatively very good condition, dial is absolutely clean, movement is clean, hands are in fine condition despite some very very minor spots, glass is in excellent original condition and case hasn't been ("over")polished as it is often the case with vintage watches












    Mine will get a service as soon as it arrives and a sunburst case rebrushing.

    Enjoy the pictures

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    Georges
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    Very nice. Your patience paid off
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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    Quote Originally Posted by badbackdan View Post
    Very nice. Your patience paid off
    Thank you. Yes patience is needed especially in this hobby, I have always learned, never to hurry before purchasing anything.
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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    I'm sorry but I can't agree. The geartrain bridge looks like it has a different shade of gold plating so I think that it's a mariage ("frankenwatch").

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    I'm sorry but I can't agree. The geartrain bridge looks like it has a different shade of gold plating so I think that it's a mariage ("frankenwatch").

    Hartmut Richter
    This model was originally fitted with a cal 751 which was a chronometer so even if for you the shade looks like slightly different, the movement remains a cal 751 and that what counts for me. At the base the original movement was a calibre 751, so even if it is a replacement bridge (none can be sure if it is a replacement) in a movement, that is very very minor trouble for me because the rest of the entire watch is original. A franken watch would be the wrong movement or a non chronometer movement and wrong hands in this watch. I have seen the same model than mine priced for the double with a shade of copper plating worse than mine. I have seen some much more damaged watches being portrayed as good and having worse condition movements. Mariage watches are often pocket watches converted to wristwatches. Sometimes spare parts can't be had, so they are taken from a donor watch.
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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    That is one nice looking watch. As a novice I feel I am nitpicking but have to ask .
    Is it ok that the A in Omega is taller than the other letters.

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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    Quote Originally Posted by Molliedooker View Post
    That is one nice looking watch. As a novice I feel I am nitpicking but have to ask .
    Is it ok that the A in Omega is taller than the other letters.
    The A isn't taller than others, it is just an impression that you have.I have another Omega with the same lettering/serif. Some models had flat As and others didn't.
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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    Thanks Mate , always learning from blokes such as yourself

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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    You're destroying me Georges, a Seamaster Chronometer is a grail for my collection and you're snapping them up quickly

    Nice watch and I know it's going to be looked after now and that's all that matters

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    Re: Another rare seamaster chronometer comes to my stable, the rare black dialed ref 166032-168023

    Quote Originally Posted by busmatt View Post
    You're destroying me Georges, a Seamaster Chronometer is a grail for my collection and you're snapping them up quickly

    Nice watch and I know it's going to be looked after now and that's all that matters

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    Hi Matt

    I would never allow myself to do that Thing is that everytime I have bid on a pie pan connie, I seem to be running very very bad luck because every time at 20 seconds before the end of the auction, I am outbid by almost 200$ more (this is the third time it happened to me). I have bidden once on a 50's seamaster chronometer, the highest bidder outbid me of 800$ more 40 seconds before the end of the auction. The thing is that some items have skyrocketed because of Omega Saga auction back in 2008. The mid late 60's-early 70's seamaster chronometers are more affordable than their 50's counterparts. This is the same for the mid 50's 321 powered seamaster chronos and the mid 60's 321 powered seamaster chronos, there is often a 1000 to 1500 $ price difference if we are talking items in pristine condition. I always try never to overestimate my budget and never to spend unreasonably because being indebted with my bank is a definite no. So patience and luck pay off. I want a pie pan connie and a 321 chrono very badly but for now I am done, maybe and very probably at the end of the year or next year, because with my other watch purchases, I have done well enough to broaden my Omega collection, not to mention that I have also several repair service bills to pay to my two watchmakers. I remarked also generally that the more you wait for a serious purchase, the better is the outcome. Don't rush and be patient, you will get one some day.

    Have a good day

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    Georges
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