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    Anyone recognise this name please

    Hi guys, anyone any idea what the watch brand on the right could be. I have searched all known sites but have come up with nothing. It looks as though it could be a military type being in what looks like a pewter case. It has a Swiss movement with the off set second's hand and the dial is brass, and it's bigger than my SM!! The name looks like MAUTHL ? No other names or marks on the movement or case, Any ideas, thanks in advance
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    Re: Anyone recognise this name please

    It could be Mauthe https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/mauthe-384776.html

    A German maker - not Swiss - mainly made clocks. Maybe they did watches with Swiss movements at some point.
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    Can't say I know anything about it. For whatever reason, when I looked at it, I read MAUTHE. I googled "Mauthe Watch" and there are many entries. So give MAUTHE a try instead of MAUTHL!

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    Re: Anyone recognise this name please

    Thanks for that, it does look like Mauthe is what it should be

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    Its an interesting watch. If you get it fixed up, please post it again for us.
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    Re: Anyone recognise this name please

    That looks to me like a Tiega pocket watch movement (pocket watch conversion was my first thought on seeing the face). Note the completely fake moulding on the train bridge to simulate a bearing for the centre wheel?

    I'm going to go with it being a 39mm MST 247 calibre in a pocket watch conversion. It could be an MST 250 as I note that the 247 is marked as being negative set - they are the same size.

    I don't have a 247, but here is a photo of one of my MST 265's to show the family resemblance though it is smaller.

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    Good movement ID! My first reaction was that it is probably a pin lever movement since the centre wheel is indirectly driven off the mainspring barrel. Now I learn that the centre wheel only exists dial side.....

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    Re: Anyone recognise this name please

    Great deduction Mirius, many thanks.
    Now that you have mentioned it, it certainly does look like that's what has happened, a pocket watch movement replacement. I assume the crude brass dial was knocked up at the same time, would it have originally been silvered as longcase brass dials were? and I wonder what the case originally had in it or could it have just been made at the same time on a lathe by a rather good watch maker, it's a perfect fit. I picked it up in krakow Poland a few weeks back for pennies, so a cheap and interesting addition to the collection
    Thanks to all the comments and help guys

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    Thanks. It is a relatively old design I think, acquired by Meyer & Studeli when they bought Tieche Gammeter in 1915/16, trim might know more about that. I'm curious how this calibre got into this watch - was it a factory job or a watchmakers conversion? I'm leaning towards the latter because of the brass dial.


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    Spot on David/Mirius.


    Nothing much to add, but I think they were still making this calibre in the 1930s. Besides the unconventional design, it is a good quality lever movement, with 15 jewels. They won some medals/prizes for this calibre family back in the early 1900s.

    I agree it's a pretty interesting old conversion

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