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    Black dial Omega cal. 601

    Hello, everyone. Can you take a look at this specimen, gentlemen? It features a black, unusual dial and seems to be some of those Genčve models from mid-late sixties. Its dial does not bear the "Genčve" inscription: I'm not sure if this should be a problem, as I was able to find some specimens without this feature (see this thread). Any red flags here?

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    Re: Black dial Omega cal. 601

    The case and the movement match.

    However, that dial is a problem. The lume looks convincingly aged, however I believe these dials are fake. They surface in a variety of references, often with incorrect double signed dial - while a double signed dial alone, something like "Seamaster Geneve" was actually, a thing, I've seen this particular dial (identical, down to the "aging" to the lume!) signed "Seamaster 600 Geneve", which is completely incorrect.

    The reference 131.018 indeed has a cal. 601, only it's an unsigned Seamaster, not a Geneve, introduced in 1962. This one has a serial for 1965.

    Now that we have the facts, time to ask some questions.

    Question number one: what is a sports/tool-style dial doing in a non-waterproof model with a press-in back?
    Question number two: what is the 1970s font (on top of that, it's the mid 1970s one!) doing on a watch from 1965?
    Question number three: why dials like this one surface on a variety of different references, with a variety of hand styles, and why is the style of hands completely inconsistent with the style of the case?!
    Question number four: Why is the aging to the lume identical on all of these dials? And when I say "identical", I really mean identical!

    My opinion: these are fake dials, probably produced by one forger, and some crooks install them on run-of-the-mill Omegas to sell them big as a "rare black dial red crosshair version." Black dial, a touch of red - oh my, now that's any faker's and fleecer's wet dream!
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    Re: Black dial Omega cal. 601

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by mkws View Post
    ....red crosshair version." Black dial, a touch of red - oh my, now that's any faker's and fleecer's wet dream!
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    Indeed, a tarred dial can only be topped by a tarred dial with red crosshair,

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