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    Black residue of death?

    Greetings all,

    I recently acquired a fusee watch from my grandfather. Its absolutely lovely. Although, its not in working condition. I'd like to fix it up in the future. But theres this weird residue on it, can anyone tell me what it is? I thought maybe it was rust but its kind of funny looking.

    I'm worried that its brittle and if I work on it and fix it, it might break. Any help would be appreciated. I'm a newbie. ):



    Oh, the case its in is also pretty damaged too. I've been looking for cases for fusees but I don't think I'm looking in the right place. Can anyone give me a pointer on where to look?

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    Re: Black residue of death?

    Hi and welcome.

    Its hard to tell from a picture, but it looks a little like the sort of black tar that pipe smokers are so fond of.

    Pocket watch collectors will stop by shortly - but fusee watch cases do appear on ebay from time to time. It would be helpful if you altered your profile to indicate what country you are in.
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    Re: Black residue of death?

    Oh, wow, thats amusing. xD Then repairing it probably wouldn't ruin it then? If its tar.
    I did look on ebay for the cases. I only found one. Should I just search 'pocket watch fusee case' or something along those lines?
    How do I tell if the case will fit my size in watch? I'm kinda lost. D: I know watches have sizes but I don't know how to locate mine. Sorry for all the easy questions.

    I'm in the United States, currently. I forgot to change that.
    And thank you for the welcome. This place has a wonderful community. <3

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    Re: Black residue of death?

    ive met something similar on my watches , that black stuff was from gaskets that melted and became sticky... gross!

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    Re: Black residue of death?

    If you post pictures of the entire movement and any markings found in the case someone may be able to give an approximate date and possibly other identification. Depending on the age it might be difficult to find a case that would fit. There is a possibility to have a new case custom made, but that would be very expensive. Your case may be repairable though.
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    Re: Black residue of death?

    Sticky? That sounds nasty!

    Sure.
    Here you go.



    Thank you for your help, I really needed it. The insides died, as you can see. ):
    Theres two other ones I'm trying to decide between or if I want to go for at all. Should I ask about them in this topic or not? Since its technically off topic. I haven't posted on many forums before.

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    Re: Black residue of death?

    Your watch was made by Desbois & Wheeler, Gray's Inn Passage, London. They were in business 1790-1835. This watch could have been made probably from 1810 onwards, but we should wait for some of our verge experts for further identification.
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    Re: Black residue of death?

    Okay, I'll look forward to it. I'll post the rest of the watches later.

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    Re: Black residue of death?

    Daer,
    Identification by Erik H couldn't been better!
    It has a rose diamont as a cap jewel, so I think end 18th century...
    But:
    Have you dissasambled the watch?
    I see a lot of missing parts!
    this will be a very serious problem for restauration.
    I think tha blackish stuff is rust residues.
    Advise:
    clean the watch as good as it gets.
    mount everything what is present, back to its original place.
    keep the watch as a reminder.
    search Internet for a verge escapement watch to have it as a runner.
    restauration:
    If spending quite a few times the value of the watch: It might be able to be restored.
    and I doubt if the remaining parts will be good enough to be a kept for runner.
    Conclusion:
    PAINFULL, sorry for that one.

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    RJ van Melle.

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    Re: Black residue of death?

    I actually didn't disassemble it myself, it came in pieces! xD

    Since it sounds like it will be dificult to restore. I'll still keep it. I love it even though its broken. <3 If I miraculously come across parts for it in the future I'd love to restore it.

    Thanks for your knowledgeable help, everyone~

    Edit: Does anyone know about the watch maker W.M Stone or London? The watch I'm looking at is numbered 675.
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