Bring a Brain XXXIII
Like Tree29Likes
  • 19 Post By mkws
  • 3 Post By Border-Reiver
  • 2 Post By Border-Reiver
  • 1 Post By Border-Reiver
  • 1 Post By georges zaslavsky
  • 1 Post By mkws
  • 1 Post By simpletreasures
  • 1 Post By B79

Thread: Bring a Brain XXXIII

Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Member mkws's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,504

    Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Welcome, lads and lasses, to the thirty-third instalment in this comedy/watchdog series! As always, we're going for a lemon picking. This means, as always I pick the lemons among listings, and explain to you, dear readers, what's wrong with them. That said... The game's afoot! Follow your spirit, and upon this charge...
    This is your Bring a Brain!

    As always, let us begin with our favourite Usual Suspects...

    1950s Omega...
    https://shop.hodinkee.com/collection...28737820295243
    ...only it's not from the 1950s. Seriously, they could finally learn how to use Google, and start looking up serial numbers. The movement dates to 1944, and so does the case. Also, they acknowledge that it's a 30T2 RG, and later, in the specs, list it as a 30T2. No, that's not the same thing, H-Shop Boyos.

    Now, this Rolex Datejust "Thunderbird..."
    https://shop.hodinkee.com/collection...29080631541835
    ...and the classic H-Shop mistake - not knowing the difference between Rolex movements. It's a Datejust, so it cannot have the cal. 1570, because the 1570 is a no-date movement. The 1575 is the date version. Of course, it can be marked 1570, while at the same time being a 1575. That's well-known to most people in the know about Rolex movements... Also, "date disc in matching gold?" Wut? It used to be white, only it no longer is. That's not "gold."

    Let's have a look at what Hodinkee always gets wrong...an Eterna.
    https://shop.hodinkee.com/collection...-super-kontiki
    "Circa 1960s?" Seriously? That's the best you can do? What if I told you, that the movement serial points to late in 1963?

    Let's check out this Tudor Submariner...
    https://shop.hodinkee.com/collection...28737542062155
    The rotor on the movement has me unconvinced. The Tudor engraving looks sloppy, and the shield logo doesn't appear to be placed correctly. In all specimens I've seen, that shield is positioned right on the edge between Geneva stripes, the edge that runs through the very centre. Here, not only is it not positioned correctly, but also seems to be tilted!
    Here, I've added a red line that runs along the edge between the Geneva waves/stripes:
    Name:  1548-TudorSub-Movement alignment issue'.jpg
Views: 82
Size:  319.9 KB

    That's it for the Shop - now let's move on to the column, to which BaB owes its name.
    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/may-31-bring-a-loupe

    Hyping a listing for a beat-up Zodiac is one thing, a listing without a movement shot is another, and a listing with absolutely dreadful pictures is yet another, no? Apparently not, because Mr. Wingold hyped a listing with all three issues.
    Then there's regurgitating the Zenith-JFK connection, to which we have some hearsay thrown in, and still nothing solid.
    And then there's that ridiculously overpriced Doxa. Even the people in the comments seem to have enough of the Doxa stuff coming from Isaac... He doesn't quite seem to get his Doxas straight.


    Let us visit another venue - this time, it's the King of Cape Cod!

    Chezard-powered Doxa:
    https://vintagecaliber.com/collections/vintage/products/1957-doxa-rare-dead-seconds

    It wouldn't be worth half that price, even with a dial that doesn't look as if a dog chewed it.

    Now, this Omega Memomatic:
    https://vintagecaliber.com/collectio...bo-exotic-dial
    "Exotic" dial... Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Oh, and I wondered how long will it take His Majesty VintageCaliber, the King of Cape Cod and Duke of the Dremel, Sovereign of Sandpaper, to attack another case with his tool kit. Well...not long.

    Also, they don't quite seem to know how to interpret case back markings on Omegas...
    https://vintagecaliber.com/collectio...-two-tone-dial
    This watch is NOT a 2897. The case is correct for the 2897, but being that this is a cal. 501 with a sweep second, the other reference stamped on the back is the correct one - 2898. The 2897 is the sub-second version with cal.491.
    And another case attacked with the tool kit... Aaaarghhh.


    Yeah, let's have a look at a different place now. Wannagetfleeced?

    First up, this redialed Longines:
    https://wannabuyawatch.com/product/l...s-circa-1950s/
    "Beautifully restored silver satin dial." Did they paint it with their legs?

    This Helbros...
    https://wannabuyawatch.com/product/h...circa-1970s-7/
    ...for 695 bucks? You've got to be taking the mickey, Wannagetfleeced...
    But no, they're still taking the mickey:
    https://wannabuyawatch.com/product/r...se-circa-1971/
    Aaaarghhh.

    I would say that that's yet another Ganjust...
    https://wannabuyawatch.com/product/r...on-circa-1967/
    ...but in fact, it's the Oysterdope Hipprecision. Another revolting redial. At that price, since they're in California, maybe they throw in a crystal bong and a few months supply of medicinal herbs? Just in case the buyer has glaucoma, or whatnot...


    We'll finish with a visit to the Knowers of Nothing - T&H.

    https://theoandharris.com/shop/vintage-watches/lip-parechoc/

    1500 bucks for a LIP? Get lost.

    And then, there's this LeCoultre...
    https://theoandharris.com/shop/vinta...chronograph-2/
    4K bucks. Seriously? Lume on the hands is all gone, and the rust by the pushers tells me that I don't even want to know what's going on inside. The lower left lug is completely clawed.


    That's it for this instalment of Bring a Brain! Take care, steer clear of the rocks, and as always, Bring a Brain will return if necessary!
    I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it.
    Edgar Allan Poe

    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
    George Orwell

    (...)but that's what mankind is like: they only prize what they no longer possess.
    Erich Maria Remarque

    For any inquiries regarding vintage Doxa watches, please read the highlighted text in my vintage Doxa thread. Sorry, but I will not respond to PMs on the matter.

  2. #2
    Member Border-Reiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    2,779

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Hodinkee:

    ... Seriously, they could finally learn how to use Google ...

    There are so many things they would need to learn before they should even talk about the shape of cases orthe functioning of spring bars, but they are experts of eyewash, masters of illusion and undisputed kings of drivel, the ideal prerequisites to screw the typical customers believing this nonsense and where intelligence and money in the pocket are diametrically opposed (at least when it comes to buy 'luxury items').

    If I would only have one choice of a watch I must wear and could not sell or throw away, a beat-up Timex for $100 and any watch on sale at Hondinkee for $10, I would take the Timex. This is what I owe my families and my own reputation.

    For some time, I could not understand why they are not trying to improve their behaviour and seek honest and professional help when describing highly priced items, but they either have absolutely no clue or they living according to the motto: 'Once the reputation is lost, you don't have to worry about anything to lose'.

    And I cannot stop asking myself: Are all the deals (completed sales) real?

    Brilliantly, just brilliantly put (the attacker of cases with his tool kit)!: 'His Majesty VintageCaliber, the King of Cape Cod and Duke of the Dremel, Sovereign of Sandpaper' ...
    Last edited by Border-Reiver; 4 Weeks Ago at 19:17.

  3. #3
    Member Border-Reiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    2,779

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    The beat-up Eterna Super-Kontiki DIVER comes with a Hodinkee NATO strap, described by Hodinkee itself as: Cheap, cheerful, and intended to be swapped out as often as you change a pair of socks, these are the traditional nylon NATOs that you've seen all over the place – because, they just work. Buy 'em by the pack, because there isn't a more fun strap to own many of than a Nylon NATO.

    All of that for only $4.500...
    Last edited by Border-Reiver; 4 Weeks Ago at 18:16.
    mkws and georges zaslavsky like this.

  4. Remove Advertisements
    WatchUSeek.com
    Advertisements
     

  5. #4
    Member mkws's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,504

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Reiver View Post
    The beat-up Eterna Super-Kontiki DIVER comes with a Hodinkee NATO strap, described by Hodinkee itself as: Cheap, cheerful, and intended to be swapped out as often as you change a pair of socks, these are the traditional nylon NATOs that you've seen all over the place – because, they just work. Buy 'em by the pack, because there isn't a more fun strap to own many of than a Nylon NATO.

    All of that for only $4.500...
    Yeah. $20 for a piece of nylon. Yikes. The "better together" offer with a spring bar tool for $45 total... Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhah ahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!

    In case someone wondered...
    https://www.cheapestnatostraps.com/c...ck-18-20-22-mm
    https://www.cheapestnatostraps.com/c...pring-bar-tool
    Total: south of 11 bucks.

    "Buy them by the pack..." Sounds like something straight out of Tesco or Costco.
    I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it.
    Edgar Allan Poe

    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
    George Orwell

    (...)but that's what mankind is like: they only prize what they no longer possess.
    Erich Maria Remarque

    For any inquiries regarding vintage Doxa watches, please read the highlighted text in my vintage Doxa thread. Sorry, but I will not respond to PMs on the matter.

  6. #5
    Member Border-Reiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    2,779

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    If you have ever wondered about who buys them by the pack:
    Attached Images Attached Images

    mkws likes this.

  7. #6
    Member georges zaslavsky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Croissy sur Seine, France
    Posts
    12,149

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Another excellent read thanks for sharing, the crooks are still selling their stuff. Luis 's replacant at a Bring a Loupe, Isaac Wingold didn't dare to come back. As usual beyond medicore condition watches at insane prices.
    Last edited by georges zaslavsky; 3 Weeks Ago at 20:00.
    mkws likes this.
    Omega the sign of Excellence since 1848. Jaeger Le Coultre Horlogerie de Luxe depuis 1833
    22 times Olympic games timekeeper, Nasa watch supplier and holder of several world records of precision, Omega has the world's trust
    Omega and Rolex for ever
    Eterna Nothing but Watchmaking since 1856
    Zenith Swiss Watchmaking and Chronometry champion since 1865

  8. #7
    Member georges zaslavsky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Croissy sur Seine, France
    Posts
    12,149

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Reiver View Post
    Hodinkee:

    ... Seriously, they could finally learn how to use Google ...

    There are so many things they would need to learn before they should even talk about the shape of cases orthe functioning of spring bars, but they are experts of eyewash, masters of illusion and undisputed kings of drivel, the ideal prerequisites to screw the typical customers believing this nonsense and where intelligence and money in the pocket are diametrically opposed (at least when it comes to buy 'luxury items').

    If I would only have one choice of a watch I must wear and could not sell or throw away, a beat-up Timex for $100 and any watch on sale at Hondinkee for $10, I would take the Timex. This is what I owe my families and my own reputation.

    For some time, I could not understand why they are not trying to improve their behaviour and seek honest and professional help when describing highly priced items, but they either have absolutely no clue or they living according to the motto: 'Once the reputation is lost, you don't have to worry about anything to lose'.

    And I cannot stop asking myself: Are all the deals (completed sales) real?

    Brilliantly, just brilliantly put (the attacker of cases with his tool kit)!: 'His Majesty VintageCaliber, the King of Cape Cod and Duke of the Dremel, Sovereign of Sandpaper' ...
    You can't make of unknowledgeable and arrogant sellers, great, respectable and trustworthy people. And remember once a crook always a crook. The people who buy from them don't do deep and thorough research so they get what they deserve. Luis Westphalen promoted heavily Hoodwinkee and its poor condition watches but he got owned here many times, his sucessor Isaac Wingold appeared here once and never wanted to get in an argument back because he wouldn't be able to handle the truth. The sales are real but made with people who are utterly naive.
    Omega the sign of Excellence since 1848. Jaeger Le Coultre Horlogerie de Luxe depuis 1833
    22 times Olympic games timekeeper, Nasa watch supplier and holder of several world records of precision, Omega has the world's trust
    Omega and Rolex for ever
    Eterna Nothing but Watchmaking since 1856
    Zenith Swiss Watchmaking and Chronometry champion since 1865

  9. #8
    Member mkws's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    7,504

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Quote Originally Posted by georges zaslavsky View Post
    You can't make of unknowledgeable and arrogant sellers, great, respectable and trustworthy people. And remember once a crook always a crook. The people who buy from them don't do deep and thorough research so they get what they deserve. Luis Westphalen promoted heavily Hoodwinkee and its poor condition watches but he got owned here many times, his sucessor Isaac Wingold appeared here once and never wanted to get in an argument back because he wouldn't be able to handle the truth. The sales are real but made with people who are utterly naive.
    Not sure if I've ever seen Isaac here... There was Louis, and then there was Eneuri from the Shop. But yeah, on principle, they come here and leave rather quickly. Which is something of a pity, they're missing their chance to defend themselves. Well, Louis has ventured here quite a few times. He had some spirit to do so, which provided that we've given him a hard time here, is commendable. He just wasn't particularly good with vintage watches - that said, he didn't really stand much of a chance here.
    simpletreasures likes this.
    I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it.
    Edgar Allan Poe

    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
    George Orwell

    (...)but that's what mankind is like: they only prize what they no longer possess.
    Erich Maria Remarque

    For any inquiries regarding vintage Doxa watches, please read the highlighted text in my vintage Doxa thread. Sorry, but I will not respond to PMs on the matter.

  10. #9
    Member simpletreasures's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    1,481

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Kinda like taking a knife to a gunfight....
    mkws likes this.
    A friend is truly a prize indeed, others not so much. So if I lead you believe you're in the latter, please read........
    http://markmanson.net/internet

  11. #10
    B79
    B79 is offline
    Member B79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Land Down Under
    Posts
    927

    Re: Bring a Brain XXXIII

    Name:  yes.jpeg
Views: 42
Size:  5.1 KB


    Another great Sunday morning read-
    Thank you!

    B79
    mkws likes this.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •