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    Buren Gran prix WWII?

    Hello, I've got another vintage mystery on my hands...lol Hopefully you all enjoy sharing your knowledge as much as I do hearing it!
    Below are a few pics of the watch movement, dial and case back inside. Incase the pics are bad (flash) the mainspring gear has 'Buren Gran Prix' written on it in blue. Buren watch co. is stamped on the movement, as well as '7 jewels', 'non adjusted', and 'WXC' which I believe is an importers code? On the inside of the case back, is stamped 'Buren watch co. S.A.' and 'swiss'. Then underneath of that is stamped 'Fond Acier' and 197662.
    The outside of the case back is smooth, but I read somewhere that sometimes soldiers would 'rub out' the mililtary insignia so they could 'keep' their trusted watch.
    Could this be a WWII watch? Any info is much appreciated as always!

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    Re: Buren Gran prix WWII?

    Egad! Please don't mind my dirty fingers...LOL I worked on my car earlier:oops:

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    Re: Buren Gran prix WWII?

    Its 1930s watch,but I'm not sure if those hands are original.
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    Re: Buren Gran prix WWII?

    The import code means it was sent to (and sold in) the U.S, but it's not an American issued service watch. For one thing, it would need Arabic numbers, not Roman. What makes you think its military?
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    Re: Buren Gran prix WWII?

    I'd say it looks as if it was a bridge variant on the Buren Cal. 380 (if 11.5''' diameter) or the Cal. 410 (if 10.5'''):

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...uswk&Buren_380

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...uswk&Buren_410

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    Re: Buren Gran prix WWII?

    Quote Originally Posted by AbslomRob View Post
    The import code means it was sent to (and sold in) the U.S, but it's not an American issued service watch. For one thing, it would need Arabic numbers, not Roman. What makes you think its military?
    Well, I wasn't really sure if it was military, now I'm thinking it's not..lol I only thought it may be from a few online searches for Buren Granprix movements. I actually was thinking it might have been german military, but, like you mention, the dial has roman numerals, not arabic. Was this movement used in WWII military watches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedanzoom View Post
    Its 1930s watch,but I'm not sure if those hands are original.
    Curious as to what details of the hands contributes to their originality or not? I'm very new in Horology, and would love to be able to spot this

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    Re: Buren Gran prix WWII?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    I'd say it looks as if it was a bridge variant on the Buren Cal. 380 (if 11.5''' diameter) or the Cal. 410 (if 10.5'''):

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...uswk&Buren_380

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...uswk&Buren_410

    Hartmut Richter
    it is indeed 10.5'''. Are the three jewels missing on my movement's bridge? There are three jewels present on the 410's finger bridges, so it has me wondering, although the 410 is a seventeen jeweled movement, and my variant has only seven. I assume from it's low jewel count, that this watch probably wasn't considered very good for it's time?

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    I wanted to post a few pics of the watch case and leather wrist band that I believe could be it's original band. I'm thinking of this watch being my first restoration attempt, but I wouldn't want to mess up the movement if it was considered 'sought after'...lol I don't believe the case was gold plated or anything like that, was hoping somebody would see the pics and know what it was originally plated with, so I could try and replicate it. I'm thinking of getting a pen plater set-up, would this work well?
    I actually recently won an auction on ebay for a little drawer full of vintage NOS plastic watch crystals, and it just so happens, one of them fits this case perfectly. I feel the dial is in pretty decent shape, so all I would have to do is find the proper stem and crown, and of course service the movement (the hard part...lol)
    Any thoughts or advice for this newbie?
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    Re: Buren Gran prix WWII?

    Couldn't tell you about German or British watches; the U.S. only used Elgin, Waltham, Hamilton and Bulova (at least, as far as is listed in their Ordance Maintenance Technical Manual - TM 9-1575). Not sure if there's a similar resource for British watches.
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