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    Can anyone help identify this movement please?

    I picked this up cheaply recently on eBay,
    It`s a non-runner at the moment.
    The balance seems to be OK and the watch runs for a few seconds when gently shaken but I dont think the mainspring is winding.either due to a break or just become disconnected.

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    I can`t see any markings under the balance so I have no idea if it`s an in-house Langendorf/Lanco calibre or not.
    In fact I don`t even know if it`s a pin lever or cyclinder movement :0)
    The overall condition of the watch looks petty decent apart from what looks like decades of grime .
    If I can find somene who can work on it for a reasonable price I can hopefully rescue it.
    If not I`ll probably just keep the nice old strap on it and sell it on to anyone who might be able to make use of the nice dial/hands or movement parts to keep one of their collection going in future.
    I think it dates probably from the early 1940`s but if and Langendorf experts out there have other ideas please let me know.
    Thanks for any light anyone can shed.
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    Re: Can anyone help identify this movement please?

    Looks definitely like a pin lever movement.

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    Re: Can anyone help identify this movement please?

    Thanks @esdy -I though it probably might be a pin lever.
    I don`t think most watchmakers won`t touch these with a barge pole these days so I might have to fish around for a non-pro guy who fancies a challenge .
    I understand Langendorf did make a few of their own pin lever calibers but most of their output was the higher quality jewelled movements

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    Re: Can anyone help identify this movement please?

    ????? Well, actually, it looks much more like a cylindre escapement movement to me:

    - Only three gears in the main geartrain under the bridge
    - The last gear in that geartrain is definitely no escapement gear...
    - ...and the next gear (under a separate cock) is too close to the balance to allow space for a lever in between

    Ergo
    the whole thing must have a cylindre escapement. I can't identify it for certain but it resembles a Kasper Cal. 100:

    www.uhrwerksarchiv.de - Kasper 100

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    Re: Can anyone help identify this movement please?

    Thanks for the info @Hartmut,
    Looks like this old girl will be heading to the great watch graveyard in the sky as the chances of getting it fixed are remote unfortunately.
    I didn`t realise cylinder moments were still in use in wristwatches this late(1940`s?).
    A bit of a shame as I like the look of the watch and was hoping a good clean up and a bit of TLC might work wonders.
    On the plus side I`ve given the vintage strap a good feed with some dubbin and it`s looking great and feeling supple again-and already on another watch.

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