Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?
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    Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    I`ve recently bought this fairlynice condition ( looks wise ) sterling silver cased Medana which I`ve dated by the hallmarks to 1920.
    The dial and blued hands are in excellent shape ..but then you flip off the back and things go a bit downhill.
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    It has what I think is an MST 59 cylinder movement (thanks to Mirius`s great website)with an unconnected and bent (broken?) hairspring and the balance wheel moves about vertically (I don`t know if this is due to it no longer being held under the spring tension or other damage)
    Obviously the movement is no beauty and I don`t want to spend a fortune but if it`s possibly to get the watch back up and running with either a donor movement or spares from a specialist I`d be grateful for a steer in their direction.
    As a Roamer collector it would be my oldest MST watch if I can get someone to breath some new life into it.
    I can`t do the work myself but would be interested to hear how easy or otherwise this type of movement is to work on - I have a fellow forum member in mind to take a peek at it if they`re not too taxing.
    Thanks in advance for any info/advice
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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    Hmmm. I'm going to say that the movement is a few years older than the hallmarking. It might mean this sat in stock before import or the movement was replaced at some point.

    You will struggle to find a watchmaker willing to work on these. Your best option is to find a donor movement. There are lots of the available. I would say there are always a couple for sale on eBay. The trick is finding them as many are unbranded.


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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    Thanks for that Mirius..I couldn`t see any branding on this on either and searching the usual places for donor movements came up a blank.
    I will probably just keep it to one side for the moment and cross my fingers.
    The other option would be to just let it go to someone who has a running movement but a more damaged dial and case.
    It wasn`t expensive so I`m not going to lose sleep over it but it would be nice to get it going.
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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    Hello! It sounds like the balance has issues...one or both pivots bad...if that's the case, I'd look for another movement, or, find someone who would like a bit of experience working on the old fellow...if the pivots are OK,well, that's much better...the hairspring really does not look all that bad...it's sometimes pretty easy to realign a spring...finally: this is a cylinder escapement, and it's been my experience, that they will take quite a bit of wear and tear over the decades, and still want to run...see if the balance pivots are intact...good luck!
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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    Thanks for the updates Apollonaught and Michael.
    I will pop the watch into my local watch guy at some point and seek his advice on the condition of the pivots as I don`t (can`t ) work on watches myself .
    The ebay watch looks promising but the problem is identifying the movements in these early watches as MST apparently rarely marked them so even the sellers probably couldn`t say what they had.
    It seems like it was another half a dozen or more years after this calibre that MST helpfully started stamping them.
    I`ll keep my fingers crossed though and might seek more info from the eBay seller mentioned above.
    In the meantime a fellow W.U.S. member is working on a nice old Roamer MST 175 from around 1927 or so which will be my oldest watch so far.
    Thanks again.
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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    M&ST almost never marked their calibres at this point. A name on the dial if you were lucky! There were only two short periods when you will find Medana marked on these calibres.

    However this calibre is very distinctive and few are similar so it's easy to spot and was only made in this ligne.

    Make that two decades after this watch when they started marking calibres with the number. About the same time that they phased out the cylinder escapements.


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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    Thanks for the extra info Mirius,
    I`ll study your website a bit more and also try to check out more unmarked watches on the web with a calin=bre like this..not an easy task tho judging by many of the the pretty dire photo`s some sellers take to sell their wares.
    I know MST supplied other brands with some of their movements ,especially up until the mid/late 1920`s but I`ve never seen any info on who they supplied which might help in tracking down a donor.
    If anybody has an ideas then I be keen to hear them .
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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    Fwiw,the case inner on the linked ebay watch is stamped M&ST.And i`d bet the farm it`s the same caliber as the one you have.Anyway i quite like some of these Medana`s,i`ve been on the hunt for a particular one for a while,it has a big circle thruogh the hour hand,you`ll know it when you see it.
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    Re: Can anyone help on sourcing parts to revive this vintage Medana from the 1920`s please?

    I can think of only one brand that M&ST supplied calibres to and I believe to the contrary that they supplied the whole watch including branding.

    M&ST had a fair number of brands but few with cylinder escapements. They did supply a lot of unbranded dialled watches to jewellers as was standard practice for the industry at that time.


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