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    Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    Hi,

    Just wondering if anyone can tell me anything about this watch. It is stamped as "Warranted Alluminium Gold" and It also has "Awarded to Pike Medals Exhibitions 1867 and 1898 For Excellency" on the inner case. To be honest I think it looks a bit tatty but I have no clue about these things and thought I'd ask some folks who might know what they are talking about. :)

    It was my late father in law's and my husband is curious about its history/value.

    Any info would be greatly appreciated!

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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    Pocket watch movements and cases were often sold separately. The movement should say something on it and the case does show the maker but it is too small to make out.

    Post what it says on the movement and also what it says on the inside of the case in picture three.

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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by TixTox View Post
    Pocket watch movements and cases were often sold separately. The movement should say something on it and the case does show the maker but it is too small to make out.

    Post what it says on the movement and also what it says on the inside of the case in picture three.
    The movement has S F stamped on it and in picture 3 the crest says Warranted Alluminium Gold with a Lion in the middle and the letter "M" beneath it. The numbers stamped below the crest are 1644.

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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    S and F stands for slow and fast, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the movement.
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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by stuffler,mike View Post
    S and F stands for slow and fast, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the movement.
    Ha ha ha.... well I did say I have no clue about this. That is the only letters I can see on the movement there are two numbers though "50" and "67"... thanks for your reply! :)

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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    I'm not sure if this is relevant here, but in the 1800's, aluminum was considered to be a precious metal, partly due to its being very difficult to refine.

    It also shines up really pretty.
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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    The movement is a fairly generic cylindre escapement Swiss bridge movement from the mid to late 18th century. Something rather like this (this is just an example, not just the movement but even the maker may differ from yours):

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Thompson 15'''

    As such, it will be difficult to identify the maker at all unless you find some markings. These may be found under the dial on the main plate of the movement but you would need to have the thing disassembled to get at them.

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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by TixTox View Post
    Pocket watch movements and cases were often sold separately.
    That's less true of swiss watches; especially an early swiss cylinder like this. The holes in the cuvette have to line up with the key posts, and sizing wasn't all that standardized before the Americans upended the industry.
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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    Hi and welcome
    Sadly little we can probably say
    Swiss
    Key wind and Key set
    Cylinder escapement
    Pre 1900s. Circa 1890s to early 1900s

    Worth? Not a lot, except maybe sentimental value
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    Re: Can you help me with any info about this pocket watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by stuffler,mike View Post
    S and F stands for slow and fast, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the movement.
    This indicates that the watch was made for an English speaking market. Otherwise it would have been marked 'A' (Avance) and 'R' (retard).

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