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    Can you tell me about this?

    I received this watch when my god father died. I was hoping someone here could tell me about it. I know nothing at this point. I have not opened the back yet. Thank you in advance for your help and knowledge. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1354483714.939647.jpg
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    Yeah, I actually dive with my Dive watches, I just hope the strap stays on

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    Re: Can you tell me about this?

    Any informed commentary would need a movement pic. The Links and Articles forum has a thread on how to open pocket watches.

    Good luck!
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    Thank you. Here is the movement.
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    Yeah, I actually dive with my Dive watches, I just hope the strap stays on

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    is the case made of rose gold?
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    Re: Can you tell me about this?

    Quote Originally Posted by georges zaslavsky View Post
    is the case made of rose gold?
    It says 'warranted' so, no.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Can you tell me about this?

    No the case is not rose gold. And what does warranted mean?
    Yeah, I actually dive with my Dive watches, I just hope the strap stays on

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    Re: Can you tell me about this?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiveTimer View Post
    No the case is not rose gold. And what does warranted mean?
    Warranted not to wear through the gold to the underlying brass. Normally for 10 years. Thicker RGP watches (rolled gold plate - not an electro plating process but rather a sandwich of gold-brass-gold sheets) could get a 20 year warranty. Consumer protection legislation in the US outlawed these eventually (in the 30's??).

    The gold 'plating' on RGP watches is much thicker than even 20 micron modern plating. But usage and thickness not just thickness determines when 'brassing' (wear through) will occur. Hence the legislation, I guess.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Can you tell me about this?

    Looks like one of these (or a Cal. 404):

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Illinois 127

    The movement serial number suggests that it was made about 1922-23.

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    Can you tell me about this?

    Thanks for that info.

    I came up with the same poss. Dates of production. Could this watch be considered a railroad watch? I saw that it had many of the needed characteristics. For example 17 jewels, double roller, white face, crown at 12 o'clock. Just wondering.
    Yeah, I actually dive with my Dive watches, I just hope the strap stays on

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    Re: Can you tell me about this?

    Ultimately, I have to admit that I don't know - I don't know the full specifications. I feel obliged to point out that proving real railroad affinity is difficult but it doesn't really matter. What is more important and much easier to prove is railroad grade (i.e. suitable for railroad use). The quality of a watch isn't measured by whether it was used for a certain task but whether it would have been up to it.

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