Cartier enigma

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    Cartier enigma

    As we all know, the Cartier Santos was possibly the first wrist watch, made for the aviator Mr Santos-Dumont by his friend Mr Cartier.

    Now comes my query:

    Pocket watches, both for ladies and gentlemen, had round movements. Even a ladies PW movement was much larger than the resulting wrist watch Cartier Santos, if the Gents size made today is the same as the 1904 original.

    As far as I am aware, Cartier used only high quality movements made by others.
    But, there was no such small movements available???

    Or was the first Cartier Santos "oversize" ?


    Could a Mod also re-post this thread in the Vintages Forum?

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    Re: Cartier enigma

    Copied to Vintage.
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    Re: Cartier enigma

    Quote Originally Posted by Janne View Post
    As we all know, the Cartier Santos was possibly the first wrist watch, made for the aviator Mr Santos-Dumont by his friend Mr Cartier.
    Just a slight disagreement with this statement. While pocket watches had been custom adapted for wrist wear early in the 19th century (and perhaps sooner), Vacheron & Constantin made a run of 25 ladies bangle-type wrist watches for the 1889 Paris Exposition. These are the first documented series-produced wrist watches.

    Don't meant to distract from your Santos thread, as I really like the history of those watches as well
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    Re: Cartier enigma

    Hence my word "possibly".

    I do not think anybody with one active braincell in the 1700 or early 1800's would wear a monster on the wrist. No small movments then.

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    Re: Cartier enigma

    There were plenty of ca. 10'''-12''' movements in the pocket watch era that were used in ladies pendant watches. As an example, the smallest Zenith movement up to 1905 was the Cal. 11''' N, it was succeeded by the Cal. 11''' N.V.I. As a comparison, the modern wrist watch movements (ETA 2824, ETA 2892) are generally 11.5'''. So why should the Cartier "Santos" have been oversized?!

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    Re: Cartier enigma

    I believe that if anything early wristwatches tended to be small to differentiate them from pock watch conversions. With 0's/13 ligne pendent watches being common, the choice of a rectangular movement in a smaller dimension, was marketing genius. A pocket watch conversion on a 0's movement is about 35mm wide.

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