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    Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    I already have plenty of projects but this one.....I could not pass on.

    It is hard to make out but the dial is marked "Columbus Watch Co - Special For - Railway Service"

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    The movement looks to be a 17j Model 2 from 1888. The fine regulation point is missing and I think the Balance bridge was swapped out. The serial will say for sure but the holes for a regulator whip is still there and I almost make out the shadow where one was. The lighting is bad so I hope the overall finish does not look too bad. If the balance bridge is wrong then I will find the correct one for it. The serial may not match but the watch will be in the correct configuration with the correct parts.

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    Re: Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    I see those holes which suggest a swan neck regulator but I don't understand why you would lose the serial number by replacing the balance bridge/cock. Are you saying the current regulator was added later, along with the adjustment scale screwed into the main plate?
    Tick Talk says, "A watch in the hand is worth two on the wrist"

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    Re: Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Tick Talk View Post
    I see those holes which suggest a swan neck regulator but I don't understand why you would lose the serial number by replacing the balance bridge/cock. Are you saying the current regulator was added later, along with the adjustment scale screwed into the main plate?
    The balance bridge will be stamped with a partial of the movement serial. If it is original it will match....but I suspect it is not original. They did not use a "swan neck" regulator spring on ones with a fine adjustment at the tip of the regulator pointer. There is another section to the index that allowed fine adjustment at the tip. The fine adjustment part is missing but the track it uses is there. It is just next to the brass scale.

    So if the balance bridge is not original I am not taking anything away that was original by replacing it with the correct one. It would also allow me to put the fine regulator adjustment back in place.
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    Re: Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    Found and bought a movement....now I feel guilty for taking a complete movement apart.

    It's uncased. Badly damaged dial and not running.... I just have to keep telling myself it is for the best.



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    Re: Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I thought about buying this one for restoration, I forgot about this listing...
    Don't destroy it, it's too good to destroy. Waaaaay too good. It's a very fancy early ds. dial Columbus with a PL 24h dial - it's just so good!
    Repair this one and keep looking for your balance cock elswhere. Also, I don't think this balance cock is exactly correct for your movement, I think it's too early looking.
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    Re: Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    Decisions, decisions! We all have choices to make. Some folks will not change a thing, while other's will mix and match as it pleases them.

    I leave the decisions to the person who's able to actually make them: here, the watchmaker at the bench. Other folks certainly may comment ( I like to! ), but it seems to me that a 'greater reality obtains' for the person using the tools, than the person commenting thereupon.

    Of course, "greater" need not imply 'better'.

    So, thoth, you're in charge here. Swap or don't swap.

    Then again...the old wood-workers used to suggest: " Measure twice / cut once".

    Decisions. Decisions. Michael.
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    Great.....I now have 2 Columbus projects. I will pester the local guy to see if he has any spare....not so nice movements. I will reach out to a few other sources too.

    I just need a correct balance bridge and regulator complete for the one. The other will need a case and a clean....maybe a staff....maybe mainspring. The seller just said not running.

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    Re: Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    thoth,

    The best part of the watch you pictured above is scarce dial marked "Columbus Watch Co., Special For, Railway Service". This is the correct dial for the Columbus watches marked "Jay Gould, The Railroad King"

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    Re: Columbus Railroad - My Next Project

    Sorry - in advance - for iPhone pictures.
    My camera has no batteries today…

    I've got the almost parts movement seen above.
    It turned out to be pretty good, indeed, except the dreadfully reguled dial...

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    Worst way one can do such repair - badly, but rock solid ;)

    Anyway - I disassembled the watch, finding one bent balance pivot and one cracked jewel (pallet fork, dial side).

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    The rest turned out fine.
    I gently tried to straighten the pivot, but it would not straighten, so I left it be.

    This version of Columbus' staff is hard to get…

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    Assembling the internal parts…

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    And on...
    The meantime screws are all way in and filed down, so maybe the hairspring had been replaced some day...

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    Casing.
    I've found an interesting swing out case for it.
    It's badly worn, but interesting.

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    The movement…

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    ...is running.

    The dial is a scarce Private Label for W.I.Farbar (? looks loke Farbar...) of Waterloo.

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    It has nice 24h markers, but still looks bad.
    Well - it stays :)
    Have a great day!!!

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